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Old 07-19-2013, 04:25 PM   #11
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But I'm confused !
I know it can be a pain to arrange, but it might help if you could post a photo of your placard, like techfan did of his.
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:51 PM   #12
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Just to clarify, yes there is a 1560 lb weight on the 15 spec, but it's not for the dry weight of the entire trailer, just the dry AXLE weight, add the 190 lbs for dry hitch weight and there is the 1750 lb. total dry weight.

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15 Foot Escape Specifications
Total length 15'-8"
Body length 11'-8"
Total height 8'-1"
Exterior width 6'-8"
Approx. Dry hitch weight 190 lbs
Approx. Dry axle weight 1560 lbs
Approx. Total dry weight 1600 lbs (Plan A)
1750 lbs (Plan B)
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating 3500 lbs
Front bed / dinette 28"x77" (Plan A)
Rear bed / dinette 54" X 77"
Interior height 6'-2"
Bathroom size 37"w x 24"d x 67"h
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Old 07-19-2013, 05:21 PM   #13
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Just to clarify, yes there is a 1560 lb weight on the 15 spec, but it's not for the dry weight of the entire trailer, just the dry AXLE weight, add the 190 lbs for dry hitch weight and there is the 1750 lb. total dry weight.

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Old 07-19-2013, 09:46 PM   #14
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The listed weights do not include options or fluids...

This is quoted on the Escape Industries page on the "The Escape" tab:

Does Escape Trailer Industries list real 'Dry Weights' for their travel Trailers?

Yes, When we refer to the Dry Weight of our trailers we weigh a finished trailer with just the Standard Features installed. You can view the Standard Features List on our Products Page.

15' Escape, Plan A has a dry weight of 1,600lbs.

15' Escape, Plan B (Bathroom) has a dry weight of 1,750lbs.

17' Escape, Plan A has a dry weight of 1,900lbs.

17' Escape, Plan B (Bathroom) has a dry weight of 2,100lbs.

19' Escape has a dry weight of 2,500lbs

Escape 5.0 Fifth Wheel has a dry weight of 2,620lbs.
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:24 PM   #15
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Now I'm confused. Hasn't it been concluded that the the weights listed on the Escape Industries website should be kilograms and not pounds?
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:30 PM   #16
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Old 07-20-2013, 06:30 AM   #17
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Hi: All... I'm overweight no matter which scale I'm on!!! Kilos just sound better IMHO. Alf
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Old 07-20-2013, 03:55 PM   #18
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Hasn't it been concluded that the the weights listed on the Escape Industries website should be kilograms and not pounds?
No.
  • The placard is in kilograms, as legally required in Canada.
  • The Escape Trailer Industries website uses pounds, perhaps because that is what is more familiar to many customers and typical in the U.S.-dominated RV industry.
Bigfoot RV also builds moulded fiberglass travel trailers in Canada, and lists both pounds and kilograms, which I would prefer.

Some members here were just confused because they were comparing one source of information about dry and empty weight with another source of information about maximum loaded weight, and guessing that confusion of units might explain the different numbers, rather than realizing that they are different information.

Both the website and the placard include GVWR and GAWR, but
  • the website provides dry/empty weight not shown on the placard, and
  • the placard provides CCC and tank content weights not shown on the website.
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Old 07-20-2013, 03:58 PM   #19
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... I have been lying to everyone and telling them my 15A weighed about 1600 pounds dry...
This is not a lie. It probably does weigh about 1600 pounds dry, or would without options. Of course, you don't go on vacation with none of the options installed, no water, no propane, and none of your stuff in the trailer!
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Old 07-20-2013, 04:09 PM   #20
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Good summary Newnan. Just a couple of comments:
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Cargo Carry Capacity 523KG = 1153lbs (includes full cold and hot water 198 + 60 = 258lbs)
Fresh water cold 90KG = 198lbs
Fresh water hot 27KG = 60 lbs
Cargo Carrying Capacity is calculated with the freshwater tank and water heater full, so that's 523 kg (1153 lb) in addition to 117 kg (258 lb) of water.

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GAWR - Cargo Carry Capacity = trailer empty weight (with what ever your options weigh included in this)
3505 - 1153 = 2352 lbs or 1065.85 Killograms.
The empty and dry trailer weight will be no more than
GVWR - CCC - water
= 3505 - 1153 - 258
= 2094 lb (or 952 kg)

I say "no more than" because the placard numbers are limits, and to avoid re-calculating them for every unit, it is normal for vehicle manufacturers to work these out for the worst case, which in this instance would mean allowing for the weight of a trailer with every available option.
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