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Old 08-19-2014, 02:05 PM   #31
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If I was going to run a CPAP machine (or anything else that draws more than an amp or two) I'd make a new home run to the converter and put it on its own circuit.
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Old 08-19-2014, 02:15 PM   #32
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Fran and Dave, are you sure that the plug on your CPAP machine is seating properly in the 12V socket. I have come across this several times where they just don't mate properly. Quality control on 12V sockets seems to be lacking although one would think the plug quality on a CPAP machine would be high. Forgive me if this is aready been mentioned.
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Old 08-19-2014, 02:42 PM   #33
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If I was going to run a CPAP machine (or anything else that draws more than an amp or two) I'd make a new home run to the converter and put it on its own circuit.
Indeed...that's the best route but how in the heck do you get the wiring from the back of the trailer to the front of the trailer without hanging exposed wiring from the walls/ceiling?!?!
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Old 08-19-2014, 02:46 PM   #34
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Fran and Dave, are you sure that the plug on your CPAP machine is seating properly in the 12V socket. I have come across this several times where they just don't mate properly. Quality control on 12V sockets seems to be lacking although one would think the plug quality on a CPAP machine would be high. Forgive me if this is aready been mentioned.
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Don't apologize...all suggestions/comments welcome! In this case, on one of the CPAP machines, we were able to get an indicator light on the CPAP transformer (?) but apparently not enough juice to actually turn the CPAP on....and the fit seemed ok and we repositioned it and jiggled it around to see if there was a problem with the fit. Perhaps there is a minimum voltage required before the machine can fire up...
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Old 08-19-2014, 02:55 PM   #35
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Indeed...that's the best route but how in the heck do you get the wiring from the back of the trailer to the front of the trailer without hanging exposed wiring from the walls/ceiling?!?!
If you peruse the "It's Friday" thread you'll probably find build pictures of a 5 that show the wiring & plumbing routes before the interior was finished off. I also checked when at ETI and found the padded corners are easily removable - that's where they run the wiring up and down between the ceiling/upper cabinets and the floor.
Another thought might be to tie into the 12V supply at the fridge, since it's set up for heavier current - if you're not using 12V for the fridge cooling and the CPAP at the same time you should be ok.
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Maybe you can take power from the landing gear circuit - shouldn't be running it while sleeping and it should be a heavier wire.

From the driver side dinette I think you can get to the space beneath the fridge. And from there the back of the bathroom. (On my 19 it was pretty easy to get a wire behind the bath - use a thin piece of lath or a stiff wire or a thin fiberglass rod.) I do not know about getting by/through the closet next to bath.
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If you peruse the "It's Friday" thread you'll probably find build pictures of a 5 that show the wiring & plumbing routes before the interior was finished off. I also checked when at ETI and found the padded corners are easily removable - that's where they run the wiring up and down between the ceiling/upper cabinets and the floor.
Another thought might be to tie into the 12V supply at the fridge, since it's set up for heavier current - if you're not using 12V for the fridge cooling and the CPAP at the same time you should be ok.
Would there be a heavier (or any) 12v going to the fridge if our fridge is only a 2 way - propane + 110 ? (Sorry if that's a dumb question...)
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Maybe you can take power from the landing gear circuit - shouldn't be running it while sleeping and it should be a heavier wire.

From the driver side dinette I think you can get to the space beneath the fridge. And from there the back of the bathroom. (On my 19 it was pretty easy to get a wire behind the bath - use a thin piece of lath or a stiff wire or a thin fiberglass rod.) I do not know about getting by/through the closet next to bath.
On our 5.0 Classic the drivers side (from loft back to the dinette) goes: loft then clothes closet then bathroom then stove & sink then dinette. We'll have to search around and see if there is any way to get to the landing gear wiring...you are right, there should not be any circumstance where we are running the CPAPs AND the landing gear
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A 110/LP only fridge does not need much in the way of 12V - just control board power. (But ETI may wire them all the same so you might have heavier wiring.) You should be able to see the wires via the lower fridge vent.

Guess I messed up the layout. I would still try to run a new circuit. Look at older build pics as tractors suggested.
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Indeed...that's the best route but how in the heck do you get the wiring from the back of the trailer to the front of the trailer without hanging exposed wiring from the walls/ceiling?!?!
Go down through the floor, follow the frame and come up where you need it.

I've done this for my hard wired rear view camera etc. Put the wire in the split corrugated plastic wire cover sold for such purposes and zap strap it up out of the way.

A continuous wire is always better than ones with several connections, especially for medical devices.

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