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Old 12-16-2014, 12:50 AM   #31
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Charging iPhones/iPads on 12 V DC

Thanks, Jim, for pointing out there is a part 2 to the 12 Volt side of life. I read the first part months ago, but learned a lot from reading the 2nd half. It appears that my 230 Ah battery charged to 75% will have close to 175 Ah when charged on the generator for maybe 4 hrs. The iPhone would only draw down about 1 Ah, but the iPad would draw down about 6 Ah. I appreciate the feedback from Greggo that in his experience charging phones and tablets isn't a big deal, but I'm a numbers guy and needed to do the math.

Doug, we would be considering solar except for three reasons. Our campsites are frequently in well treed areas, so we are shaded from what sun there is. In the BC areas we fish there is much cloud and rain. Using the Minn Kota electric motor on our 12 foot aluminum boat requires recharging every 2-4 days, depending on how much we troll. In the past we have been a little less frugal running our lights etc, knowing we could charge our trailer batteries at the same time as the boat's battery.

One further question. Where is the standard inside 12V DC outlet in the Escape 21?


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Old 12-16-2014, 01:16 AM   #32
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Standard 12V outlet in the 21 is in the nightstand between the bed and the closet, facing the bed.
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There are 12V splitters available. I've got a couple of these for car and trailer.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:48 AM   #34
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I think I've got our 12V needs figured out now.

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Standard 12V outlet in the 21 is in the nightstand between the bed and the closet, facing the bed.
That would be my first pick for a 12V outlet. The second would be by the dinette. I'm thinking we will spring for this.

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There are 12V splitters available. I've got a couple of these for car and trailer.
We will definitely need this when we want to charge both devices.

Thanks for the advice, guys.
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I've got 12V extension cords as well. Opens up lots of options, as long as you don't mind tripping over wires.
For the price, I'd just add 12V outlets wherever I think I might use them.
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:05 PM   #36
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Having read everyone's posts, 'seems Mecca runs on 12 Volt too. It's time to ask the inverse: what might one miss by not having an inverter (other than low draw cigarette-style units from hardware stores)?
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:17 PM   #37
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Having read everyone's posts, 'seems Mecca runs on 12 Volt too. It's time to ask the inverse: what might one miss by not having an inverter (other than low draw cigarette-style units from hardware stores)?
>Electrical griddle - bacon, pancakes, french toast, eggs, etc.

>Blender - margarita's, etc

>Toaster - toast, bagels

>Electric blanket - to warm the bed

>Dehumidifier

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>Electrical griddle - bacon, pancakes, french toast, eggs, etc.
>Blender - margarita's, etc.
>Toaster - toast, bagels
>Electric blanket - to warm the bed
>Dehumidifier

Actually all of the above mentioned hot food items can easily be prepared on your stove, either inside or outside or on the campfire so they will not be missed. Electric cords will not be missed nor will carrying around the extra 120v appliances and extension cords will not be missed. But having the ability to camp anywhere you want, if available, would be missed.
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We don't watch a lot of TV; didn't order an antenna. With data plans getting cheaper all the time we carry a 27" flatscreen we store under the dinette and occasionally use it to watch Dish Network via my Samsung S3 with their connector which needs AC as does the TV. Several posts rate 12V TV's being just OK. We also use a Vita-Mix. With 5 standard AC outlets we opted not to have any more 12V put in as we really don't need them. No problem yet with single 12V Group 29 house battery with the solar option.
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Actually all of the above mentioned hot food items can easily be prepared on your stove, either inside or outside or on the campfire so they will not be missed. Electric cords will not be missed nor will carrying around the extra 120v appliances and extension cords will not be missed. But having the ability to camp anywhere you want, if available, would be missed.
Obviously, Jim has never had a frozen margarita while camping!
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