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Old 06-14-2009, 12:52 AM   #1
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After Market Gaucho / Bunk Bed Any Ideas?

I just purchased a 2004 17' Plan B with the dinette single bed. (The dinette was actually removed, so at this point it is really a couple of seats or a single bed- no table anymore - it does make a really nice sitting area however,) I was hoping to upgrade, after the fact, to the gaucho bunk as I have 2 little kids I want to house. I emailed the manufacturers and 'Reace' was kind enough to respond to me the next day. Now that says something about the Escape brand!!!

"The gaucho bunk requires a support brace in the front wall under the window to anchor the bunk to. It is a piece of 3/4" plywood which is fiberglassed to the shell under the headliner. If it is there, then the bunk can be added easily....if not, you will have to come up with another solution such as screwing through the shell to anchor the bunk..."

Unfortunately for me, I am lacking that anchor. I am hoping that the members might be kind enough to share pictures with me of what I have to do to 're-create' a bunk, or perhaps share ideas on what I could do. My version comes with the upgraded insulation and no apparent bunk bed attatchments, so I think I will need to get fancy. Unfortunately I am no engineer and only marginally handy.
I live in the queen charlottes, so there are no easy 3rd party fixes for me, I am eager for any help.

I have to say that I am amazed at this trailer. It has lived in the rainforest for it's whole life and it is showing no signs of leaking. In fact it looks brand new, despite sitting outside, uncovered for it's whole life. I am blown away at the quality of construction and the ergonomics of this unit. Very proud to have bought a CDN constructed trailer. Love the web support!

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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Old 06-14-2009, 02:10 AM   #2
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Can't help you as we don't have the gaucho model.

Just wanted to say WELCOME!

We are going to be up in the Charlottes in July--but not with the trailer... I'll be pleased if we happen to see yours, always get excited when we see an Escape.. Ther are two Escape trailers on The Charlottes right??
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Old 06-14-2009, 09:52 AM   #3
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Re: After Market Gaucho / Bunk Bed Any Ideas?

Have you considered building a framework for the bunk portion? If it's affixed to the floor, you wouldn't need to punch holes through the outside shell.
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Old 06-15-2009, 12:40 AM   #4
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Re: After Market Gaucho / Bunk Bed Any Ideas?

Thanks for the welcome. Yes, I believe that there are currently two Escapes in the Charlotte's. Too bad you can't bring yours, but ferry travel is pretty expensive these days, so I understand why you might not want to bring yours. You visiting Gwaii Haanas NPR? Too bad no way to get an 'Escape' down there!

I agree, that a frame is preferred to punching holes. I hadn't thought of that, but in my climate I think that is the way to go.

I figure that a bunk would really only need to support max. about a 100 pounds of kid. If anyone has pics of the gaucho and would be kind enough to post I would appreciate it. I think that it uses a couple of aluminum posts for added strength?

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Old 06-29-2009, 02:04 AM   #5
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Re: After Market Gaucho / Bunk Bed Any Ideas for 2004 17b?

I love my 2nd hand 2004 escape, I just really need a bunk bed for the kids.
I think I will need to bolt a 2X4 under the front window. (I think that is the sort of thing that Reece may have been suggesting). I am going to try and mod a frame that uses slats (instead of solid plywood) which can be broken down and stored under the front dinette space. The lateral support on the approach side will be a hinged 2X4 (can hide it in the bathroom). Trying to figure out how to support that brace on the wardrobe and restroom closets. Maybe modify a metal shelf bracket thingy. I will share my experiment when completed. If anyone has any words of advice or pics, I am all ears. I really like the big open feel of the front seating area, and don't want to commit to a permanent bunk, hence the break down option.

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I fella just posted a topic and link to pics on FiberglassRV, Replaced front bunk a strong bunk that works: http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/in...howtopic=36072

Maybe there's something in the post that will help you? Good luck!
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Re: After Market Gaucho / Bunk Bed Any Ideas?

Careful. Escape 17s that have the bunk also have a support block fiber-glassed to the shell, under the front window. You will have nothing but the shell to bolt to and through.

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There is a much simpler solution. You buy a tent. The kids love having their own space. Pitch it near the trailer so you and they can feel safe. Not sure how old the kids are, but, by the time they are 10, they will insist on their own spot.

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Re: After Market Gaucho / Bunk Bed Any Ideas?

Hi and Welcome!
Since I did not envision much group camping, I did not get the gaucho. Now, however, there are three of "Grammy's girls" that are expected to be regulars. I have seen pvc pipe made into chairs and tables using pipe, fittings and fabric for chair backs and seats. I was wondering if that concept could be modified to make a bunk bed that is stable and yet could be broken down for travel or dinette use. I think it could work if the kid(s) weren't heavy. Also, since it would be free-standing, no wall reinforcement would be necessary and the bathroom wall and wardrobe wall could prevent it from tipping over. Just a thought... :
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Re: After Market Gaucho / Bunk Bed Any Ideas?

Thanks for the feedback and link. I looked at the fiberglass again after gbaglos warning and have to agree. I am scared that it might crack under use. I think I will go with something like sandra suggested - only use wood not pvc. I will update with pics when I am done. A system that can break down, and gets its support from the existing cabinetry.

Kids are under 10 and still want to be in the same unit. This will likely change as soon as I have built the bunk!

Thanks for all your suggestions, waiting for feedback has forced me to slow down and think it through a little more, which is always a good thing.
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