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Old 12-17-2017, 09:19 PM   #1
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Hi gang, I am not getting anywhere quickly finding out detailed wheel specs from ETI. Does anyone know what the offset, hub hole size, and width are for the standard alloy rims ETI provides? Better yet, does anyone know the acceptable ranges for wheel offset with the standard 205/75r15 tires? Rim selection up here in BC seems a tad sparse. I don't like the tires they supply, so am trying to sort out a way of getting acceptable rims with tires mounted to them before trailer production. Has anyone just showed up at orientation with a replacement set, and if so, did ETI switch them for you and give you the $80/wheel credit?
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Old 12-17-2017, 09:27 PM   #2
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You would best ask ETI those questions.
I'd hate to show up with four tires on rims that don't fit because you got the wrong info here. And, I wouldn't expect ETI to give you credit for supplying your own resin either.
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These are the ones that came with my 19. 15x6, 5 lug on 4.5, with a 3" back spacing. I don't think they've changed:

http://recstuff.com/trailer-wheels/a...trailer-wheel/

You can use either a 225/75-15 or a 205/75-15 tire. Is it just the tires (Carlisle) you don't like or the wheels too?
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Old 12-17-2017, 10:51 PM   #4
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Does anyone know what the offset, hub hole size, and width are for the standard alloy rims ETI provides?
Ignoring the specific wheels provided by Escape, what's important is that they fit the hubs, which are Dexter 3500-pound 545-group components as standard on the Torflex #10 axle. That means near-zero offset (zero to 1/2"), 5 bolts on 4.5" bolt circle diameter, and 1/2" studs. It's unlikely that you can buy a wheel sold for trailers which doesn't have a large enough centre bore diameter, and they don't hub-centre so the centre bore can be as large as you want.

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I don't like the tires they supply, so am trying to sort out a way of getting acceptable rims with tires mounted to them before trailer production. Has anyone just showed up at orientation with a replacement set, and if so, did ETI switch them for you and give you the $80/wheel credit?
I assume that you should order the "Delete tires/wheels, install CX provided" option in advance. I'm sure that Escape is not set up to dismount or mount tires, and they buy them as mounted sets, so tires and wheels go together... as you're planning.
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Old 12-18-2017, 11:19 AM   #5
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It's mostly the tires I don't like, the alloy wheels would be ok, if not my highest preference. I want to put the toughest tires that will fit on the rig, and I am not impressed with the average opinion of the Carlisles. The hassle for me is getting the tires changed on the ETI rims. It seems the only way to do it is pay ETI to shuffle them back and forth with a local tire shop, which I am not sure I trust to turn out well.

Regarding the 225/75R15 tires, ETI told me that they would not fit. I originally hoped to use them so that I could use E rated tires. I will be ordering the high lift axle, if that makes any difference, but absent persuasion, I will likely stick to the 205/75's.

I had a look at the torflex information, but did not see any specifics about wheel fit. As to the offset and wheel width issues, those will be affected by the wheel well clearances, so ETI could overide what might otherwise be ok for the axles. If someone here actually has the 225/75's mounted, and if we are certain that the 2018 21's have not changed the axle spacing, I might re-consider going with the heavier tires.

Decisions, Decisions. Good thing the build sheet doesn't have to be sorted until May.
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I suspect ETI says larger tires won't fit due to the space between the two wheels, that is, the distance between the axles. And I would bet the 2018 is no different as there is no report ETI has made new molds.

With the stock 205 tires, there is only about 3 inches of space between the tires at the midpoint. You add an inch to each tire diameter, now you are down to an inch of space.
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I suspect ETI says larger tires won't fit due to the space between the two wheels, that is, the distance between the axles. And I would bet the 2018 is no different as there is no report ETI has made new molds.

With the stock 205 tires, there is only about 3 inches of space between the tires at the midpoint. You add an inch to each tire diameter, now you are down to an inch of space.
That's correct. The limitation is the axle spacing and the wheel well clearance, not the wheel itself.
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I suspect ETI says larger tires won't fit due to the space between the two wheels, that is, the distance between the axles. And I would bet the 2018 is no different as there is no report ETI has made new molds.

With the stock 205 tires, there is only about 3 inches of space between the tires at the midpoint. You add an inch to each tire diameter, now you are down to an inch of space.
That is correct and the Goodyear Endurance are closer together than the Marathons were. Our 21 was previously owned by an experienced trailer puller who paid for the upgrade from Carlyle’s to Marathons at pickup time. The Marathons went 4 years and a lot of miles. The installation of the Endurance tires necessitated trimming a little more Plastic off the Anderson Levelers ( curved double chok type). The Goodyear Endurance are load range D. You can tow as fast as you’ll probably ever want to go and each tire is weight rated for almost enough to carry one half the weight of a loaded 21. I like ours and have about 10,000 miles on them since the first of August. Showing very little wear, no squirm, good in the rain. Have not been in snow with them. (Yet). Not to be flip about it but in my opinion you can overthink this. Just like tires on a tow rig, I will run the originals till I know for sure I don’t like or trust them and then go on the hunt for a replacement that suits me better and spend the bucks. YMMV “Donna”
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It's mostly the tires I don't like, the alloy wheels would be ok
Maybe the easiest way would be take Escape trailer with stock wheels and tires. No worries if the wheels or tires will fit since ETI ordered them. When you get home you can change to what ever you want and sell the steel wheels and tires on Craigslist.

Keep in mind if you take wheels with you for ETI to install make sure you also take proper quantity, type and size lug nuts for wheels you are taking. Lug nuts for steel wheels should not be used on Aluminum wheels and vice versa.

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Maybe the easiest way would be take Escape trailer with stock wheels and tires. No worries if the wheels or tires will fit since ETI ordered them. When you get home you can change to what ever you want and sell the steel wheels and tires on Craigslist.

Keep in mind if you take wheels with you for ETI to install make sure you also take proper quantity, type and size lug nuts for wheels you are taking. Lug nuts for steel wheels should not be used on Aluminum wheels and vice versa.

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I like that idea Kent. I don't see anything wrong with the Carlisle tires, but the OP definitely does. If it's a must that the Carlisle tires be replaced, going with stock would probably be the least expensive way to go. Replace them with whatever you like once you're home.
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