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Old 03-05-2019, 03:47 PM   #1
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Barker 32 gal blue tote riding in a hitch tote on the back of an Escape19

I'm looking for Devils advocates. Why shouldn't I do this?

We have an Escape 19 and we don't tote bicycles. We are planning an extended trip this fall and I'm thinking about buying a Haul Master 67599 (https://www.harborfreight.com/alumin...ier-67599.html) to install on the back of the Escape 19 to carry our Barker 27844.

The hitch tote weighs 50 pounds and the empty Barker blue tote weighs 40 pounds.
The hitch tote is 30" x 48" x 9" and the Barker fits inside it perfectly.

Your thoughts?
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Old 03-05-2019, 03:53 PM   #2
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32 gallons of water weighs more than 260 lbs. Add that to the 50 plus the 40.
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Old 03-05-2019, 03:59 PM   #3
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I'm looking for Devils advocates. Why shouldn't I do this?

We have an Escape 19 and we don't tote bicycles. We are planning an extended trip this fall and I'm thinking about buying a Haul Master 67599 (https://www.harborfreight.com/alumin...ier-67599.html) to install on the back of the Escape 19 to carry our

The hitch tote weighs 50 pounds and the empty Barker blue tote weighs 40 pounds.
The hitch tote is 30" x 48" x 9" and the Barker fits inside it perfectly.

Your thoughts?
Are you planning on using this while camped somewhere you can dump or is your plan to carry the full tote on the rack while you are traveling? I think my answer would depend on which option you are planning.
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Ah, good questions. I would only transport an EMPTY tote like this.
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Old 03-05-2019, 04:35 PM   #5
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Seems to me if you stay under the Escape recommended weight, what difference if its a bike and bike racks or a plastic tote.
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Ah, good questions. I would only transport an EMPTY tote like this.
You should be fine.
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If you are only planning to carry an empty tote do you need the ramp? That is quite an awkward appendage sticking up all the time if you never use it. There are carriers that are just as big (but not as deep) without the ramp.
https://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Cargo...PS1040100.html

I think your biggest challenge will be ground clearance as you deal with steep driveway skirts at gas stations. You might consider a modification that allows the rack to be mounted higher if needed. It takes some work but you can slide the spare over on a new support and put on a Blue Ox rise similar to what I did for our Stowaway cargo box.
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What is the purpose of the Barker tote? I don't understand.
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Old 03-05-2019, 11:16 PM   #9
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What is the purpose of the Barker tote? I don't understand.
Richard can fill in his reasons, but most people use these totes to empty the trailer's waste tanks, taking the waste to a central dump station, when the tanks fill before the stay at that campground is finished. This is only in sites without sewer service, of course. It's only likely to be a problem in sites with water service (since the fresh water tank runs out), but just as waste can be hauled away water can be hauled in. The tote is the alternative to breaking camp, hitching up, and hauling the trailer to the dump site.
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I gather. And I presume it still weighs almost 300 lbs. when full. Sounds like fun.
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I gather. And I presume it still weighs almost 300 lbs. when full. Sounds like fun.
Well, you don't absolutely fill these things, unless you like risking a brown spray if it overflows.

If the ground is rough or soft, it isn't a lot of fun to pull one of these things, but they are normally pulled down the campground roadway. They're never lifted while full; this one has wheels on both ends, so you don't even lift one end.
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They're never lifted while full; this one has wheels on both ends, so you don't even lift one end.

Sounds like my 17B, but I only have wheels, sorta in the middle. I can empty the black and grey and fill up with fresh water in one trip.
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Some folks need to dump their gray tanks every other day, For a couple week stay somewhere the tote would be useful. More so for bigger trailers with kids and such.
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If you are only planning to carry an empty tote do you need the ramp? That is quite an awkward appendage sticking up all the time if you never use it. There are carriers that are just as big (but not as deep) without the ramp.
https://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Cargo...PS1040100.html

I think your biggest challenge will be ground clearance as you deal with steep driveway skirts at gas stations. You might consider a modification that allows the rack to be mounted higher if needed. It takes some work but you can slide the spare over on a new support and put on a Blue Ox rise similar to what I did for our Stowaway cargo box.
Excellent input. Thanks!

1) The "Rascal Rack" was just something I saw at Harbor Freight. You are correct - don't need the ramp. Will check out etrailer!
2) Never thought about the extended length & ground clearance.
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Seems to me if you stay under the Escape recommended weight, what difference if its a bike and bike racks or a plastic tote.
That's my thoughts, but I've been very wrong before. BTW, what are the factory weight limits?
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Old 03-06-2019, 06:43 AM   #16
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RE: " What is the purpose of Barker Tank"
We will be dry camping at one spot for 10 days - this allows us to dump without moving TT.

I bought this tank because it fits in the bed of my F150. I'm considering this extension because it looks like a good way to free up space in the truck bed, but now I'm thinking it's gonna be awkward.

I also have a Flojet 18555-000A, Portable RV Waste Pump. This will actually pump right from dump port UPHILL thru 100 foot of garden hose. may possibilities here, including leaving the Barker in the bed of the truck to avoid pulling the thing over rutted roads/
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Thanks all! I'm thinking this might not be the best way to go.
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As a solo traveler, my needs are different than a couple or large family. But, I made a tote that I can pickup when full. I can use it to dump either gray or black water. Can dump into a gray water disposal pit, flushy, pit toilet or at home. Cost me less than $20 to make. When I take it, it rides empty next to the truck cab.
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Old 03-06-2019, 07:53 AM   #19
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If the issue is only with gray tank you could use a garden hose adapter on the dump cap and fill any jug/tote.

https://www.amazon.com/Valterra-T102...p/B00ON6GH3G/r
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