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Old 10-04-2014, 03:48 PM   #11
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I too am curious about Brian's question. If you run the pads, does the tow vehicle also charge the battery? What about if you are running the pads, and the fridge on 12v?

On point to the thread, I am regretting our decision to get the heating pads. I suspect the insulation under the bottom, thus including the tanks in the heated space will be more than enough to keep the tanks from freezing so long as the trailer space itself is heated.
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Old 10-04-2014, 05:03 PM   #12
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Yes to the separate power cord (shudder to think of the damage mice could do to a pristine Escape trailer).

And yes to the front storage box (I have no idea where else all the stuff in the box could be stored).

And yes to the sprayfoam under the floor and tanks (it went down to -3C in Manning Park our first two nights camping, yet the floor stayed warm enough to walk on barefoot).
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Old 10-04-2014, 06:25 PM   #13
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The fresh tank is not in the heated space. I would get the pads with the spray foam underneath for when electric is available.

We use a soft rope caulk at the electrical cord entrance. We mould it around the cord so it is completely covering the space.
To put the cord away, we hold it in one hand and have an old towel on it with the other hand, wipe clean with towel while putting in, done in one minute.

I would like to not have the box but don't know where we would put all of that stuff.
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Old 10-04-2014, 06:29 PM   #14
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Saw the posts . Can tell you what we have done . We do not have the detachable cord . We wipe the cord when we put it back and we bought what are called hatch door bug shields . They are made by AP products . We bought the round one for our 19 . It is slit and goes on cord and we push it into hatch and then close the hatch . We store it in our little side door . We do have screens on everything else . The # for the round one is 55-5283 .
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:05 PM   #15
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I've had both kinds of cords. In 8 years never had critters of any sort go up the cord and into the trailer, not that I ever knew about anyways. I went with the detachable on the new trailer as I was always worried about the plug falling inside the trailer on the fixed cord, never did, but I still thought about it every time I pushed it into the opening. the one I had had a small door that closed over the pulled out cord, when properly closed up nothing bigger then ants could have gotten past, don't know if the Escapes use this style. It also uses up some valuable real estate in the trailer. That said, the detachable has to be pulled out from it's storage bin and put away each time it's used, in this regard the attached was simpler. I prefer the detachable.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:13 PM   #16
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We have heating pads and have used them, whether they help prevent the gray water and fresh water tanks from freezing even with foam insulation under the trailer and extra insulation in the trailer/windows while keeping the trailer warm with furnace and space heater at temps down to minus 3-5 deg C is not known to me. i think if you plan to camp and at night it could get below minus 5 deg C and you want to carry water get the heat pads. We used to live in PG and I would get the heat pads as we would camp in the shoulder season. I gives you piece of mind at low temps.
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:59 PM   #17
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I assume that 12V power is used for tank heating pads so that they can be run while driving, not to run them from battery power.
Either way they are operating off battery 12v, it is just when hooked to 120v at the pedestal you have unlimited 12v available.
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Old 10-04-2014, 10:00 PM   #18
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You could get to cord at least in our 19 right under the double doors -bed area .we added a 1/4 Piece of plywood on both sides to close up sides still leaving front of that area to be able to air . Also very easy to get in there just remove couple of screws . The hatch cover is just 1/2 in piece of rubber for a barrier just in case when camping .
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Old 10-05-2014, 01:32 AM   #19
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Either way they are operating off battery 12v, it is just when hooked to 120v at the pedestal you have unlimited 12v available.
I agree... but running out of battery power is not a concern when there is a charging source, whether AC or tow vehicle. So yes, you need to be "hooked up" - to either source.
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Old 10-05-2014, 12:04 PM   #20
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Thanks everyone for your helpful and speedy replies. So in case you are interested here is what we have decided to do (so far!). Add the storage box, go for the removable cord, and add in the spray insulation, but not the pads. We decided not to add the pads as we rarely use hookups and we thought we would be safer draining the system by October and managing without fresh water in the tank. We have done this with our current trailer up until now.
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