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Old 06-12-2014, 05:05 PM   #21
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I wonder if a lighting system could be installed on the inside of a black tank. You folks that want a crystal clean black tank can open the flush valve and get a good look at the inside when ever you want.
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Old 06-12-2014, 05:38 PM   #22
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Lastly, I pretty much have given up on the tank indicators - they rarely read correctly, even after a rinse.
Is this common? Just curious.
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:04 PM   #23
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Is this common? Just curious.
Yes, very common.
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:35 PM   #24
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I have yet to have any issues with either of my Escape's sensors, just using the proper tissue and some cleanser.
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Old 06-12-2014, 06:44 PM   #25
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On the tornado did you use a city water hose hook up with a check valve or a gravity hose hookup.

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City Water & check valve. It takes enough pressure to spin the head that I doubt gravity feed would make it work...

As to the tank indicators, while some state they always work OK, more have problems with them...
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:47 PM   #26
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Dave1,
I think the most important aspect that some members are missing here as to when and why you should keep your tanks clean and empty is ambient temperature. Living and I presume camping in New Mexico heat will require more sanitary conditions. That is unless you want the campground to yourself. I even flush, add odorant, and cap my dump hose after each use. And by keeping your tanks emptied, you lessen tow weight and save fuel.
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Old 06-13-2014, 08:18 AM   #27
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City Water & check valve. It takes enough pressure to spin the head that I doubt gravity feed would make it work...

As to the tank indicators, while some state they always work OK, more have problems with them...
Jon,

Thanks for the reply. Yes gravity feed would not work, I meant to ask if you used a hose hook up with or without a ck valve, which you answered.

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Old 06-13-2014, 08:40 AM   #28
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I think the most important aspect that some members are missing here as to when and why you should keep your tanks clean and empty is ambient temperature. Living and I presume camping in New Mexico heat will require more sanitary conditions. That is unless you want the campground to yourself. I even flush, add odorant, and cap my dump hose after each use. And by keeping your tanks emptied, you lessen tow weight and save fuel.
David,

I couldn't agree more. After watching the video posted it is amazing how much is left after flushing. I'm trying to find a dumping procedure that will get the tanks clean enough to not clog, smell, and be somewhat sanitary. . So far I'm of the mind that a good tank chemical combined with at least a half full tank combined with some travel to mix it up before dumping. After the dump does one fill and flush, use a wand, or install a tank flusher. etc. I'm leaning toward an installed tank flusher, however the shape of the 19 gal tank isn't square, so I wonder how effective it would be. Maybe a hose connect installed in the bath and a wand is the answer.

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Old 06-13-2014, 08:56 AM   #29
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This video (25 minutes) might be of interest if you are in the market for a rinser of some sort, he just posted this today. I know it'll be hard but try and not be too critical and take it for what it's worth.

Testing Tank Flushing Systems in the Clear RV Black Tank!
Thanks for posting this site. The video was entertaining at least and had some good conclusions. Will be interesting to see what tank chemicals will do to overall breakdown/removal of solids. Wonder what he will choose for "solids"?
The escape 19 gal tank, in the 19 trailer, is not square, has a bottom exit and a couple elbows.
Looking around the site was fun, he sure has a lot of energy! Good site I've saved it for future entertainment.

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Old 06-13-2014, 11:33 AM   #30
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Dave1, you might watch the 1st one they did, it describes the ingredients. He got so much positive feedback that he made the 2nd one linked to above.

Inside the RV Black Tank: Testing the Sewer Solution
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I'll add a bunch of ice cubes, take a ride, then see if everything came out ok.
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Old 06-14-2014, 09:58 AM   #32
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Dave1, you might watch the 1st one they did, it describes the ingredients. He got so much positive feedback that he made the 2nd one linked to above.

Inside the RV Black Tank: Testing the Sewer Solution
Bob,
Had watched this one also. It was interesting how much the elbows he added in the second test effected the back flush ability of units tested. Seems like the sewer solution would be a good home unit, and you could get a good cleaning.
Thanks again for taking the time to post these.
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Great video, the guy had fun. I think an RV would have a higher solid percentage than what the sanitation lab folks suggested when the tank was first dumped but that is not to discount the great job he did.
I have the luxury of a very rarely used dump facility 2 miles from home so I can take my time when I clean the tanks, I don't clean them when folks are behind me in line.
I made an exterior monitor system so I can keep track of water level so I don't have to worry about over filling the tank.
A great thing about wands is you can clean the throat area of toilet and the pipe to the black tank, if you ever have to remove the toilet I think you'll be glad it was cleaned.
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I'll add a bunch of ice cubes, take a ride, then see if everything came out ok.
Ice Cubes did i miss something?
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Great video, the guy had fun. I think an RV would have a higher solid percentage than what the sanitation lab folks suggested when the tank was first dumped but that is not to discount the great job he did.
I have the luxury of a very rarely used dump facility 2 miles from home so I can take my time when I clean the tanks, I don't clean them when folks are behind me in line.
I made an exterior monitor system so I can keep track of water level so I don't have to worry about over filling the tank.
A great thing about wands is you can clean the throat area of toilet and the pipe to the black tank, if you ever have to remove the toilet I think you'll be glad it was cleaned.
The Tornado folk should pay that guy, now how badly do I want to dig into the under carriage Insulating foam to to do the install ...
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The ice cubes act like the grains of sand in those hand cleaners that scrub your hands clean. like the sand, the ice will scrub your sensors and then melt.
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The ice cubes act like the grains of sand in those hand cleaners that scrub your hands clean. like the sand, the ice will scrub your sensors and then melt.
And it allows the bacteria to play hockey.
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Re: ice cubes... : When on the road in the tank they will fly around at will, hopefully scouring as they go. Solid, benign, yet having a true lifespan shorter than a pupae.
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Old 06-14-2014, 08:36 PM   #39
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The Tornado folk should pay that guy, now how badly do I want to dig into the under carriage Insulating foam to to do the install ...
I agree, that's a convincing demonstration. It also explains tank monitor problems better than anything I've seen before. Can the foam be repaired after being dug into?
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