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Old 03-13-2017, 05:17 PM   #1
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Black tank won't empty!

I tried pulling handle out 2-3 times, but tank will not empty, is there a valve that can get stuck on a 2006 17B? HELP!!
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Old 03-13-2017, 05:23 PM   #2
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You say tried, were you able to pull the handle? If so, could it possibly be frozen. There is no other valve on the black water pipe.
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I was able to pull out handle, but sensed that nothing was coming out, open and closed a couple times, then opened grey tank. It was a busy dump station, so not much time to investigate. Now that I'm at new site, the monitor is showing near full. Not frozen, in Florida. I'm going back out in the rain to hook up portable tank and see if I can empty some out, but am baffled why it didn't empty earlier? Is it a simple slide valve?
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As Jim asks, did the handle pull out about 3"?

A quick way to see if the valve is open or there is an obstruction is to take something flexible, like a coat hanger wire and feed it in.

If the end of the wire stops about where the slide valve is, the valve isn't open. The handle may be broken and isn't pulling the valve.

If the wire goes past the point where the valve is then something is clogged. Then you can use the wire to poke and prod both from the exterior and interior until things start moving.

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I tried pulling handle out 2-3 times, but tank will not empty, is there a valve that can get stuck on a 2006 17B? HELP!!
Open valve to toilet and look inside to see if you have a toilet paper plug. This will prevent emptying. You need a stick or something to break the plug. The best toilet paper is Angel Soft. Have had the plug happen a couple of times until we changed TP. Good luck.
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I'm going back out in the rain to hook up portable tank and see if I can empty some out, but am baffled why it didn't empty earlier? Is it a simple slide valve?
It's a pretty simple slide valve. Unless the pull handle breaks, if the handle moves the slide valve opens wide. There's nothing else between it and tank contents.

I'd put a plain bucket under the end and open and close the valve. That'll instantly confirm whether anything's moving.

If not, I agree, it could be a plug at the drain point from the tank which you can poke and prod though the toilet.

Hey, it's still a better situation than if it was on a boat where you'd have to go diving and do your poking and prodding underwater.

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Old 03-13-2017, 06:18 PM   #7
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We are having a discussion as to which holding tank is #1 and which is#2 on the jvc monitor micro? Is #1 the grey or black? Doesn't say in the manual, and has never been as important before!
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Use a stick and go through the toilet and try to find the drain hole and stir things a little.

Whatever you do don't look up it from the outside if you are messing with it out there.
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I think Tu Esposa should video this while your poking. Could be a $10,000 winner on AFV.
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I think Tu Esposa should video this while your poking. Could be a $10,000 winner on AFV.

I'll vote for it!
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I think Tu Esposa should video this while your poking. Could be a $10,000 winner on AFV.
Please post the video.
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If poking toilet contents with a stick, don't allow the toilet trap to close on the stick as that can damage it.
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If poking toilet contents with a stick, don't allow the toilet trap to close on the stick as that can damage it.
And we don't want a damaged poking stick!
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Whatever you do don't look up it from the outside if you are messing with it out there.
What a thought.

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Old 03-13-2017, 07:53 PM   #16
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But what about the monitor? Is it my black tank for sure? Is this holding tank one or two on the monitor Sorry, no way to video......
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The rod can come disconnected from the slide gate. Go buy a new 3" gate valve. Do not mess with it at the campsite or you may have a mess. Take the trailer to the dumpsite and get the valve over the trough and lift the drain flap. Then unbolt the trailer drain valve and let the fluids drain out and replace the valve. Refill the black water system with water and make a lap around the campground and re-dump. It's a dirty job but someone has do it.
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Be sure and let us all know what the outcome is. ��
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The rod can come disconnected from the slide gate. Go buy a new 3" gate valve. Do not mess with it at the campsite or you may have a mess. Take the trailer to the dumpsite and get the valve over the trough and lift the drain flap. Then unbolt the trailer drain valve and let the fluids drain out and replace the valve. Refill the black water system with water and make a lap around the campground and re-dump. It's a dirty job but someone has do it.
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Though I've never had a problem with one of these valves I have been told that some of them have rods that thread into the gate. You might try pushing the handle all the way in and then turn it several times clockwise. Then try pulling it out.
DISCLAIMER: Again, I have never disassembled one of these valves; just repeating what an RV tech once told me.
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But what about the monitor? Is it my black tank for sure? Is this holding tank one or two on the monitor Sorry, no way to video......
We have the older monitor with generic Holding Tank 1 / Holding Tank 2 descriptions. Tank 1 is gray. Tank 2 is black.
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