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04-08-2018, 07:12 AM
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#101
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
Surely both sides were done (with photos of just one side because both look the same), because both sides were broken... right?
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Oops...forgot both sides had cracks
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04-08-2018, 09:07 AM
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#102
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Long Beach, Washington
Trailer: 2012 Escape 19 "Tortuga"
Posts: 200
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yes, totally symmetric repair. BOTH sides. I only posted pics of curb side.
happy camper Steve
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04-08-2018, 11:01 AM
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#103
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
Posts: 3,033
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
Glad you are back on the road. With work that good I would have considered having both sides done.
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That's a very astute observation . With one side of the frame being that heavily reinforced will more load or frame flexing be transferred to the unreinforced side. ?
My "CASITA" frame bent slightly on one side and I had it straightened and reinforced . The frame shop reinforced both sides
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04-08-2018, 02:02 PM
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#104
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve dunham
That's a very astute observation . With one side of the frame being that heavily reinforced will more load or frame flexing be transferred to the unreinforced side. ?
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No, as discussed above both sides were broken and have been similarly repaired.
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04-08-2018, 03:36 PM
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#105
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Lake Worth, Florida
Trailer: 2009 Escape 19
Posts: 58
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I crawled under our 2009 19 (battery under U dinette, with front box fwiw) today. I knew it had been subject to the recall and the previous owner had it repaired. I have the same through bolt, but frame looks fine there. The area where the plate was welded across the mitered joint looks okay as well, just needs a bit of POR 15 to stop the rust. However, the two angle brackets that were added as part of the recall seem to have cracked right at the bend, same on both sides. It looks like they could be ground at the crack and welded, but I can’t understand how the bracket could have been stressed that much. Granted, it’s rusty, but it seems like the trailer would have to be lifted straight up to crack those angle brackets....
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04-08-2018, 05:13 PM
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#106
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: NA, Arizona
Trailer: 2017 5.0TA
Posts: 549
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlaGman
I crawled under our 2009 19 (battery under U dinette, with front box fwiw) today. I knew it had been subject to the recall and the previous owner had it repaired. I have the same through bolt, but frame looks fine there. The area where the plate was welded across the mitered joint looks okay as well, just needs a bit of POR 15 to stop the rust. However, the two angle brackets that were added as part of the recall seem to have cracked right at the bend, same on both sides. It looks like they could be ground at the crack and welded, but I can’t understand how the bracket could have been stressed that much. Granted, it’s rusty, but it seems like the trailer would have to be lifted straight up to crack those angle brackets....
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It is more likely the frame bending downward due to lever action @ the tongue.
hopefully when Reace has the 3" frames analyze a better solution will be found.
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04-08-2018, 05:19 PM
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#107
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: N/A, Indiana
Trailer: Escape
Posts: 976
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[QUOTE=FlaGman;243156]I crawled under our 2009 19 (battery under U dinette, with front box fwiw) today. I knew it had been subject to the recall and the previous owner had it repaired. I have the same through bolt, but frame looks fine there. The area where the plate was welded across the mitered joint looks okay as well, just needs a bit of POR 15 to stop the rust. However, the two angle brackets that were added as part of the recall seem to have cracked right at the bend, same on both sides. It looks like they could be ground at the crack and welded, but I can’t understand how the bracket could have been stressed that much. Granted, it’s rusty, but it seems like the trailer would have to be lifted straight up to crack those angle brackets....[/QUOTE
Do you use an equalizer hitch when towing ?
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04-08-2018, 05:25 PM
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#108
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Lake Worth, Florida
Trailer: 2009 Escape 19
Posts: 58
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No, I tow with a Honda Ridgeline. The manual indicates an equalizing hitch is not necessary.
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04-08-2018, 07:17 PM
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#109
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlaGman
... the two angle brackets that were added as part of the recall seem to have cracked right at the bend, same on both sides.
... I can’t understand how the bracket could have been stressed that much. Granted, it’s rusty, but it seems like the trailer would have to be lifted straight up to crack those angle brackets....
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When the trailer twists due to uneven ground (which is much more of an issue with tandem axles than with a single axle), two opposite corners of the body will be trying to lift, while the other two pushing down onto the frame. This happens frequently while driving, so even though there isn't enough force to break the brackets on a single bump, the steel may fatigue over time and eventually fail.
As others have mentioned, use of a WD system (especially excessive use) with a flexible frame could also pull the frame down from the body; as far as this bracket is concerned, it would be the same as the body being lifted. I realize that this is not the issue with FlaGman's trailer.
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04-18-2018, 01:30 PM
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#110
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 14
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I have had my 13 Escape for 8 years and inspect the frame to insure that there is no rust on the exterior and spray an annual rustproofing in the frame's interior. There is nothing worse than a rusted out frame because it was not protected.
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04-18-2018, 02:00 PM
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#111
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by galand53
I have had my 13 Escape for 8 years and inspect the frame to insure that there is no rust on the exterior and spray an annual rustproofing in the frame's interior. There is nothing worse than a rusted out frame because it was not protected.
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Good and important practice ! Pat
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04-18-2018, 02:04 PM
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#112
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 21 "Blue II" & 2017 Highlander XLE (previously 2010 17B "Blue" & 2008 Tacoma)
Posts: 4,234
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Quote:
Originally Posted by galand53
I have had my 13 Escape for 8 years and inspect the frame to insure that there is no rust on the exterior and spray an annual rustproofing in the frame's interior. There is nothing worse than a rusted out frame because it was not protected.
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What do you spray into the interior of the frame tube?
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