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Old 03-11-2015, 07:28 PM   #21
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Wouldn't pulling the trailer break away pin lock the wheels?
Only until your battery dies... It depends on your battery to power the brakes.
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Old 03-11-2015, 07:56 PM   #22
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Actually I've had the thought of designing an add-on mechanical brake. My original thought was that it could be part of a storage security set-up. Locked wheels that don't have any obvious way of being released would make a unit very hard to steal.
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Could it be as simple as a cable attached to the actuating arm down near the electromagnet, then through the backing plate to a latch or toggle lever that is locked in either 'on' or 'released' positions?
Yes, but even easier... Dexter sells their brake assemblies (the backing plate with shoes, magnet, and mechanism) with a parking brake lever just like the rear of a car or light truck (with drum brakes). Normally this is run by cables and a hand lever - again, just like a car. The lever could be locked on. The lever would need to be decently long (again, like in a car) to apply enough force by hand.
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Old 03-11-2015, 07:58 PM   #23
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Wouldn't pulling the trailer break away pin lock the wheels?
Yes, but...
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Only until your battery dies... It depends on your battery to power the brakes.
Yes, and the brake magnets take about 6 amps per axle (when a full 12 volts is applied, which is what the breakaway switch does), so the battery dies pretty quickly.
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Old 03-11-2015, 08:51 PM   #24
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It doesn't roll as easy if you let all the air out of the tires.......just sayin'.

My driveway is quite steep, I put a 2 1/4" of wood under the front tire, and clamp in my BAL X-chocks. Has worked great for years now.
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Old 03-11-2015, 09:18 PM   #25
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Yes, but even easier... Dexter sells their brake assemblies (the backing plate with shoes, magnet, and mechanism) with a parking brake lever just like the rear of a car or light truck (with drum brakes). Normally this is run by cables and a hand lever - again, just like a car. The lever could be locked on. The lever would need to be decently long (again, like in a car) to apply enough force by hand.
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Old 03-12-2015, 01:44 PM   #26
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Brian, are you aware of a camper trailer that comes with a parking brake?
Not currently in North America, although the components are available from Dexter.

In Europe recreational trailers typically use a mechanical brake system (rather than the electric and hydraulic systems used here) which lends itself naturally to a parking brake, and they all have the parking brake - it is also used as part of the breakaway system. When the T@b sold here was still based on European AL-KO components it had the parking brake, because it is an integral feature of the "overrun" braking system; the T@b trailer design has since been taken over by a different manufacturer and is now on a more conventional (for North America) chassis.
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Old 03-16-2015, 02:52 PM   #27
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...Yes, but even easier... Dexter sells their brake assemblies (the backing plate with shoes, magnet, and mechanism) with a parking brake lever just like the rear of a car or light truck (with drum brakes). Normally this is run by cables and a hand lever - again, just like a car. The lever could be locked on. The lever would need to be decently long (again, like in a car) to apply enough force by hand.
This idea has stuck in my brain, so I've been looking for info.
Dexter's brake assemblies with parking option are
K23-086-00 (Left) and K23-087-00 (Right). (I believe these are the correct ones; I don't have my Escape trailer yet, so I can't check).
For an actuating cable and latching lever installation, I found this (look about 1/2 way down, where the responder (Kevin) posted a good set of photos showing how he did it.
I need a parking brake system! | IH8MUD Forum

The latching lever can be mounted to the front frame cross-member, horizontally, where it is easily assessed. The bell crank can translate the motion to the forward-backward motion needed for the cable to the brakes.
Note that this does not involve the electric portion of the Dexter brakes; it's all mechanical.
I'll probably switch to this when it's time to replace the brakes; the Dexter assemblies come with the shoes.
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Old 03-16-2015, 03:38 PM   #28
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Dexter's brake assemblies with parking option are
K23-086-00 (Left) and K23-087-00 (Right). (I believe these are the correct ones; I don't have my Escape trailer yet, so I can't check).
Yes, those look like the right parts - at the very least, they are the right capacity (3500 lb) and drum size (10"x2.25").

Unfortunately, when I looked at the available Dexter 10" brake assemblies, I realized that the parking feature is not available with self-adjusting (Dexter Nev-R-Adjust®) mechanisms, which I think Escape is now providing. I don't know why not - cars and light trucks with rear drums have all had both self-adjusting and parking features for decades.
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Old 03-16-2015, 04:13 PM   #29
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...with self-adjusting (Dexter Nev-R-Adjust®) mechanisms, which I think Escape is now providing. ....
Interesting: a forward-operating self-adjuster!
Can anyone confirm that Escape trailers now get Nev-R-Adjust?
(I've probably used up my allotment of e-mails with ETI for the month, or I'd check right now )
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I'm aware that Airstreams use them but not that ETI does. AFAIK...
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