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Old 01-12-2018, 10:17 AM   #1
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cold weather advice needed

First let me apologize to those who are really in cold weather.

Here in South Carolina, six overnights of sub-freezing lows (as low as 25 a couple nights with daytimes 40-50) are being expected and we're not sure how to deal with it. After leaving MA before Christmas, we ran dry while in sub-freezing nights until a week ago when we finally hooked up to water. Running hot water and a flushing toilet are camping luxuries that we had missed.

We'll use the Ecoseb and a small electric heater to keep the cabin at 55 or higher. Will having the water heater on and allowing a continuous slow flow of water keep our plumbing safe and keep the intake hose from freezing or should we disconnect the hose and blow out the system? Should we put antifreeze in the waste tanks? Should we disconnect the sewer hose? Any other suggestions?

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Old 01-12-2018, 10:55 AM   #2
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If you have the foam underneath in theory you should be okay as long as it warms up during the days as you mention.

Without foam it'd be more of a crap shoot. Do what you say and hope for the best or dry camp, again.

I've had campgrounds tell us we had to disconnect the hose at night when it got below 32, I did such but left the hose out. It was frozen in the am. leaving it drip is supposed to work, but I've not tried it.

Personally I wouldn't bother with antifreeze at those temps, in the tanks or plumbing. I would however blowout the lines if dry camping.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:06 AM   #3
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Next time get a heated water supply hose and then your worries are over.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:07 AM   #4
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We do have the foam underneath. In a one-night cold snap a few years ago, we had the hose freeze, which cause the campground faucet to freeze. Maybe we'll try staying connected and dripping on the 30+ nights and disconnect and drain the hose on the colder nights while leaving water in the system.

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Old 01-12-2018, 11:24 AM   #5
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As a soon to be proud owner of a 21' and a newbie I am now confused. I read in recent threads (within the last month or two) that systems should be ok when lows are in the mid to upper twentys as long as daytime temps reach forty or fifty and the tt is heated.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:26 AM   #6
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David I would simple disconnect the outside water hose at night and during freezing temperatures. Leave some cupboards open so heat gets to the interior water lines and not worry about it, we have camped in freezing conditions with both or 19 and 5.0TA doing this.


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Old 01-12-2018, 11:31 AM   #7
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Our experience has been the same as above, these temps present no issue except the hose bib. Hey, if you forget to unhook the hose that’s what the wife’s hair dryer is for, and there is usually power right by the hose bib.
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David I would simple disconnect the outside water hose at night and during freezing temperatures. Leave some cupboards open so heat gets to the interior water lines and not worry about it, we have camped in freezing conditions with both or 19 and 5.0TA doing this.


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If you disconnect the hose, drain the water out so that it does not freeze and can be used again the next morning if required (without thawing it out first). If your freshwater tank is full, you would not require water services for several days anyway. Also, we have had the dump valve for the black tank freeze shut in cold weather, preventing us from dumping the black tanks until the weather warmed up a few degrees.
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As a soon to be proud owner of a 21' and a newbie I am now confused. I read in recent threads (within the last month or two) that systems should be ok when lows are in the mid to upper twentys as long as daytime temps reach forty or fifty and the tt is heated.
That's pretty much what we are all saying, if you have the foam insulation underneath.

Without the foam, you may be okay too, maybe. The little hose that runs from the fresh tank up into the body is just hanging out there, at least on mine it is.

Guess there's also a chance the gates may freeze. I had one crack last winter but I don't know if it was from freezing or me hitting something.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:47 AM   #10
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David I would simple disconnect the outside water hose at night and during freezing temperatures. Leave some cupboards open so heat gets to the interior water lines and not worry about it, we have camped in freezing conditions with both or 19 and 5.0TA doing this.
Agreed. Just disconnect the hose. 25F overnight lows with days well above freezing is nothing to worry about. Keep the trailer heated. Sustained cold is when you'll have issues.
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