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Old 01-20-2015, 12:07 AM   #31
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I've seen cars come and go since the 1970's... and standards are indeed not what we grew up with. They're better now: a recent GM car (to avoid comparisons between companies) is better built, better finished, more reliable, and longer-lasting than my parents' GM cars of 1971 and 1979.
And, they're more powerful while using less fuel, have over 90% lower emissions, and (the kid in me coming out) have more cool toys.
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Nice to see the core defenders on duty. Boy, they do look nasty. The question about your Trillium is- how old is it now? Ya know, it's tough being in business and when things aren't right the companies who truly excel in providing World Class Service don't make excuses- they correct errors.
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:11 AM   #33
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I can't lose the nightmare of the day my dad traded in a Mercedes 190D on a Valiant. I sat in the driver seat and couldn't avoid looking at the paint runs on the passenger door window frame.
Never forgave him.
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:12 AM   #34
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I can't lose the nightmare of the day my dad traded in a Mercedes 190D on a Valiant. I sat in the driver seat and couldn't avoid looking at the paint runs on the passenger door window frame.
Never forgave him.
Lol...my Mom had a Valiant. A true POS.
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:21 AM   #35
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I was surprised as anyone to go out to the trailer and see the screws rusted. And I am constructively trying to understand and solve the problem. Reace has offered replacement screws and that's what I'll do. The screws obviously came with the windows and ETI is caught in the middle again.

I don't see the point in showing old screws. We are talking about a new trailer and screws are all rusted in less then 4 months. I'm puzzle why when 'we' find any defects there are a small group of folks that seem to discredit it. What's the point? I thought we were all in the same boat?

You want to see some 'flying joints' next?

When you look at this one you can see it's shaped like a pie pan instead of the rounded screw head it 'had'. And you can see the light areas with little paint and the brown rust.

I wiped rust off with a paper towel and if you looked at it in a microscope you can see the obvious passes of a very fine sander.
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:27 AM   #36
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And, they're more powerful while using less fuel, have over 90% lower emissions, and (the kid in me coming out) have more cool toys.
I agree with you but feel sorry for the folks who have been injured and died due to the failure of ignition switches. I understand that have springs that look like springs but the metal is too soft and they fail.

To me these screws are just another small example how we are all getting screwed ... 1,367,146 GM vehicles recalled
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:33 AM   #37
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Klem- the screws didn't come with the windows; Hehr doesn't supply. They are OEM provided and the OEM is Escape; they buy them from one of their vendors.

Hey- I know lots of folks are getting tired of this topic, although there are probably many who are just beginning to be aware of the problem. I just want to say we LOVE our 21 and are going camping tomorrow!
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I don't see the point in showing old screws. We are talking about a new trailer and screws are all rusted in less then 4 months. I'm puzzle why when 'we' find any defects there are a small group of folks that seem to discredit it. What's the point? I thought we were all in the same boat?
Time to take a Chill Pill, Klem. Or maybe one that allows you a better sense of humour. We are all in ON the same boat, this forum. One that was once populated by fun loving people (and I do recognize there still are lots here). I was just having some fun, and meant no malicious intent in my post.
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Lol...my Mom had a Valiant. A true POS.
My other nightmare ( before dad bought his Valiant ) is me buying a model car kit. They all showed a Ford Mustang on the box, but when I got it home I found a Valiant ( and that's what it said on the label that sealed the box ). I glued it together in a rudimentary fashion, placed it against the wall of my bedroom and slammed the bedroom door against the wall.
It didn't even make a decent wreck.
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Old 01-20-2015, 01:03 AM   #40
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I have seen better corrosion resistance in US made cadmium plated screws than with low grade imported SS screws . Stainless steel is no guarantee against corrosion anymore.
It never was an unconditional guarantee. "Stainless" steel rusts less than mild steel, but is not immune. There are many stainless steel alloys, and all are varying compromises between corrosion resistance and other properties such as mechanical strength. There are good reasons that few mechanical components are made of any kind of stainless steel. In many cases, I'm sure the cad plated steel screws are a better choice than many stainless alloys.
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