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Old 09-03-2014, 12:35 PM   #31
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I'll say. Our negative experience with a dual axle Chinook three winters ago in BC and elsewhere is what brought us to the Escape in the first place.
They are really bad on Ice and Snow, Most of the guys that know what they are doing will use a single rear wheel 1 ton or 3/4 ton.
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Old 09-03-2014, 02:03 PM   #32
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For comparison, heavy commercial trucks are also required to have chains, and they do carry them, but I can't remember the last time I saw those used, either. One season of watching Ice Road Truckers or Highway Thru Hell will probably show more use of tire chains than a decade of driving actual mountain highways in normal winter conditions.


In the last 2 or 3 years I have seen commercial trucks lined up on the highway putting on tire chains. And I don't do a lot of winter travel on those highways.

One occasion was eastbound on the Trans Canada Highway at Field. At first I thought there was an accident seeing all those trucks pulling over on the flats. Chains were mandatory on that occasion before climbing the steep hill to the east. Chains were coming off at the top of the hill.

The second occasion was the northbound traffic on the Coquihalla Highway just south of the snow shed area. All commercial trucks had to chain up. There were flashing lights everywhere on tow trucks and police cars. There even had a large tow truck pulling some of the trucks up the hill.

Chains are used on the highways here.
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Old 09-03-2014, 02:44 PM   #33
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For comparison, heavy commercial trucks are also required to have chains, and they do carry them, but I can't remember the last time I saw those used, either. One season of watching Ice Road Truckers or Highway Thru Hell will probably show more use of tire chains than a decade of driving actual mountain highways in normal winter conditions.



In the last 2 or 3 years I have seen commercial trucks lined up on the highway putting on tire chains. And I don't do a lot of winter travel on those highways.

One occasion was eastbound on the Trans Canada Highway at Field. At first I thought there was an accident seeing all those trucks pulling over on the flats. Chains were mandatory on that occasion before climbing the steep hill to the east. Chains were coming off at the top of the hill.

The second occasion was the northbound traffic on the Coquihalla Highway just south of the snow shed area. All commercial trucks had to chain up. There were flashing lights everywhere on tow trucks and police cars. There even had a large tow truck pulling some of the trucks up the hill.

Chains are used on the highways here.
Yes they are but I have never seen them on anything other than commercial tractor trailers
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Old 09-03-2014, 03:16 PM   #34
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When I drove a school bus in California we used chains regularly - any time the the chain sign was turned they were mandatory on a school bus. The mandatory 25 mph speed limit in a chain control area was ignored by way too many drivers.

We used both "drop down" (Onspot - The Automatic Tire Chain) and regular chains. We only had to chain the outside rear tires on the dually drive axle.

The drop downs were good for light snow - but not anything heavy or sticky.
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Old 09-03-2014, 03:38 PM   #35
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A few winters ago I saw chains on the rear of a front wheel drive car in Langley----I guess you'd call those "drag chains"

Then there's Snoqualmie Pass in Washington. Signs everywhere to chain up. No snow on the ground, underground, above ground---well you get the picture---and people were pulling over in droves to chain up. We spent most of our trip passing.

We're thinking about traveling to the Grand Canyon in March with our new 19'---will we need chains and or careful route planning?
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Maybee I should have some chains for the Yukon for our trip over the coquhalla in November
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Old 09-03-2014, 04:57 PM   #37
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...The second occasion was the northbound traffic on the Coquihalla Highway just south of the snow shed area. All commercial trucks had to chain up. There were flashing lights everywhere on tow trucks and police cars. There even had a large tow truck pulling some of the trucks up the hill.

Chains are used on the highways here.
Yes, they are used, and this is a good typical example. I was just trying to say that it's rare: in normal winter conditions which account for the vast majority of the time, the chain-up areas are not in use, just as there are no flashing lights of emergency vehicles. I have watched two seasons of Highway Thru Hell and would recognize the Jamie Davis tow truck fleet, but I've never actually seen their equipment in use as I've driven past their base in Hope.
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We used to put on chains during bad weather in the mountains but ive never put chains on a trailer i would not want to tow in those conditions
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One occasion was eastbound on the Trans Canada Highway at Field. At first I thought there was an accident seeing all those trucks pulling over on the flats. Chains were mandatory on that occasion before climbing the steep hill to the east. Chains were coming off at the top of the hill.
In case anyone is curious, that's presumably Kicking Horse Pass, on the BC/Alberta border. The chain-up location is typically a specifically set up and marked area, and the chain-off area is typically not at the top of the hill, but well down the other side, since chains are needed for braking as well as climbing.
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:17 PM   #40
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One of our favorite places to ski in BC is Kootenay Pass where chain up conditions frequently exist.
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