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Old 09-09-2015, 09:51 AM   #21
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I almost always have it on, as we switch from electric to propane in the drive before leaving, and leave it on until we get home, as we need to run on propane while camping.

I recently saw a thread on another RV site while searching something about propane. I can't remember now what I was searching, and I can't find the thread again. Basically, the OP asked folks to honestly answer a few questions, the first was who ran with propane on, and it was the vast majority. And of those that did, who turned it off when refuelling, and it was pretty mostly those that had a switch to use to do so. Most argued that it is not even posted to turn off propane when refuelling, and to be honest, I don't think I have ever seen a sign saying to do so. Ferries and tunnels requiring it to be off do have signs posted to do so.

In the vein of being honest, I very rarely (okay, pretty much never) turn off my fridge when refuelling, partially because I never actually think about it.
I wonder about the actual risk of the fridge running on LP when filling our tow vehicle with gas.

I would guess that this sample Jim mentioned is most likely correct about % of people. Even with the huge numbers of various RVs on the road, I personally have never read of a fire or explosion at a service station caused by an RV with a fridge running on LP. (Anyone else?)

Given that the flame is shielded, after watching Mythbusters in various episodes with them trying to cause explosions, it seems like the only way for a fire or explosion to happen would be gas actually spilling onto the fridge compartment, seemingly quite unlikely with our trailers being well behind the gas inlet of our tow vehicles.

Makes me wonder if any sort of real world testing has even been done, of it this is just one of those things that sounds like a good safety idea?
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Old 09-09-2015, 11:19 AM   #22
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This topic is one of those where methinks the propane travelers will continue to travel with propane on and the non propane travelers will continue to not and never the twain shall meet. We have always travelled with propane fridge on and will continue to do so unless we go out in a bang like Alf. So far to date never heard of losing a molded fiberglass enthusiast to an explosive demise. Worse thing would be using the potty while fueling if it blew......
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This topic is one of those where methinks the propane travelers will continue to travel with propane on and the non propane travelers will continue to not and never the twain shall meet. We have always travelled with propane fridge on and will continue to do so unless we go out in a bang like Alf. So far to date never heard of losing a molded fiberglass enthusiast to an explosive demise. Worse thing would be using the potty while fueling if it blew......
Hi: Greg A... I'm no chemistry whiz but I wouldn't want a test ride on a methane/propane powered bowl. Twain or no twain!!! Alf
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Old 09-09-2015, 11:44 AM   #24
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When refueling and towing with propane on, I always take the closest pump and leave the trailer and the source at least 15 feet away from the fumes. I'm more afraid of the smokers who have a cigarette in their mouth while refueling.
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Old 09-09-2015, 12:50 PM   #25
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Makes me wonder if any sort of real world testing has even been done, of it this is just one of those things that sounds like a good safety idea?
National Fire Protection Association has indeed conducted testing. Their standards are based on real-world testing of a variety of scenarios, staged accidents, etc., that are much of the basis for their standards (they burn up lots of stuff!).

NFPA 30A (Motor Fuel Dispensing..) and 58 (LP Gas Code) are among them.
Neither mention shutting off tank valves, but both address removing ignition sources within 20 feet of dispensing. The most obvious hazard is fuel spills. I have seen modern, automatic shut-off dispenser nozzles fail to shut off, with 1 or 2 gallons of gasoline on the ground; so it is a real possible hazard.


By the way, the International Fire Code, the model Code for many jurisdictions in North America, references NFPA 30 and 58 as standards.
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Old 09-09-2015, 02:30 PM   #26
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When using the fridge I typically let it cool down for several hours using electricity, then travel with the fridge running on propane, and shift back to electrical where it's available.

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We are packing today, leaving tomorrow. Four days with no services, no corner stores.
I have frozen a small sirloin roast to cook in my new BBQ. It will go in the fridge while we travel to help keep fridge chilled. Might leave a frozen half chicken in the fridge as well. Which ever thaws first is for dinner.
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Now static electricity? That can actually cause a fire in low humidity locations like Colorado.
I used to live in Michigan, and there was an explosion at a gas station caused by static electricity. Someone refilled a 5 gallon can of gas while it was on the truck bed rather than on the ground. The resulting static discharge blew up the gas can, and also the propane tank next to it which was launched across the road by the explosion.

Always put a gas can on the ground before refilling it.

And I always turn off my propane tanks, just in case. 12v seems to keep my fridge cool enough. On my old trailer, which had a 2-way fridge, I added an inverter so I could keep it working while traveling. And that was before I had solar. Worked fine.
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Well, thanks everyone for sharing all these thoughts...it's very helpful. I agree that if you cool down your fridge long enough (I usually do overnight) it can stay cool for a surprisingly long time if you refrain from opening it. It depends on the outside temp, of course. And I tend to put the first frozen items to be eaten in the fridge, like Gbaglo does.

I think I'll feel comfortable running the fridge, at least part of the time, if the drive is long. Shutting it off to fuel seems easy enough with the push of a button, since I'm usually in the trailer getting a snack for my kiddos or some such thing anyway. (Though we are doing the 2-door Dometic replacement, and I think you now have to open the door to push the buttons?? Our current fridge buttons are on top and don't require opening the door.)

The idea of having a bad accident and the propane igniting is certainly scary, and we'll sure hope that never happens!

Thanks again for all the replies, I appreciate it!
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