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Old 09-07-2013, 07:37 PM   #1
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EMS Surge Protection installation question

We are considering getting the Progressive Industries EMS Model EMS-HW30c. We hoped to hard wire it in. We have looked in our trailer and the power cord goes into the box with the fuses and the converter and we are leery of messing around in there. There is not much space to work and there are a lot of wires right there.
We wondered if it would work to just cut the power cord (maybe 2 feet from the converter box) and strip back enough insulation on each of the cut ends to wire the EMS in line on the power cord. We would mount the EMS to the trailer floor and also secure both ends of the cord to the trailer floor so it would not bounce around, etc.

Has anyone tried this and/or is there any danger or downside to doing this?

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I see no problems with that plan for the wiring... in fact, that I how I have been planning to add a similar unit to my motorhome. Is this to go in a protected location (just not with the other gear)? I wouldn't want it just exposed on the floor.
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We are considering getting the Progressive Industries EMS Model EMS-HW30c. We hoped to hard wire it in. We have looked in our trailer and the power cord goes into the box with the fuses and the converter and we are leery of messing around in there. There is not much space to work and there are a lot of wires right there.
We wondered if it would work to just cut the power cord (maybe 2 feet from the converter box) and strip back enough insulation on each of the cut ends to wire the EMS in line on the power cord. We would mount the EMS to the trailer floor and also secure both ends of the cord to the trailer floor so it would not bounce around, etc.

Has anyone tried this and/or is there any danger or downside to doing this?

Thanks!!
When I installed mine in the Escape 19' that is what I did, about 2 feet away I mounted the box, cut the wire and ran the wire thru the box, made the connections and done.
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:48 PM   #4
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I see no problems with that plan for the wiring... in fact, that I how I have been planning to add a similar unit to my motorhome. Is this to go in a protected location (just not with the other gear)? I wouldn't want it just exposed on the floor.
Yes, it would be in the under the bench storage where we would not have anything other than the power cord and the solar panel inverter, etc.
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:50 PM   #5
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When I installed mine in the Escape 19' that is what I did, about 2 feet away I mounted the box, cut the wire and ran the wire thru the box, made the connections and done.
We were intending to cut the big black 25 foot power cord that you plug into the outside power source...yours looks like a different power cord.....
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Jim,

That's to same spot escape installs them.

Fran,

Ours is wired the same, with 110 ac house wiring. Its cheaper and easier for escape to do the run using that wire. If there is a junction box with a transition from the black power cord wire to a thinner wire before the converter you could mount the surge protector there, if room, and eliminate the junction box. Or if room around the converter you could simply undo the power cord wire from the converter go into the surge protector then out with a new wire to the converter. All depends on space available and how easy it is to work in the area.

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We were intending to cut the big black 25 foot power cord that you plug into the outside power source...yours looks like a different power cord.....
You do not want to cut the power cord wire, you need to find the power feed wire to your converter and cut that one, I think it was orange. If you are not that familiar or uncomfortable as to which wire, I'd purchase the plug in kind that is portable. If you already bought it, post some pictures of your converter wiring and perhaps we can tell you which wire. It is probably the biggest wire feeding your converter.
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I have lately heard of lots on incidences where a surge protector tripped for some reason, but have not ever heard of damage caused when not having one. Has there been many cases of ruined appliances or equipment? No doubt there are some, and there certainly is no harm in having the protection, but might it be like the over protective parent syndrome?

Just curious....
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Jim,
As a contractor, how many times have you had to fix some other contractor's mistakes? It is the same here, do you check the pedestal before plugging in, have you ever found that there was open ground or that the hot and neutral wires were reversed. I used to find a lot of electrical problems before using the EMS, now I do not need to check, I know it works in the background for me. Have you ever had lightning strike near you, everything electrical is fried. The EMS will prevent that. In the summer when everyone is running a/c I see the voltage drop to 110 and below, again that is harmful to your electrical system.
Now, if you never hook up, then yes, your problems would be limited and may not even need one.
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I'm following this thread with interest because I'm in the beginning stages of "what do I want" on the build sheet. Does anyone know what brand/model Escape uses?

This is a direct link to the one Fran & Dave referenced in the top post: Amazon.com: Progressive Industries EMSHW30C Surge Protector: Automotive
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