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Old 05-17-2019, 06:33 PM   #1
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Escape 21 & Bigfoot 21 Owners Experience with Rodents & Insects in Main Cabin

I am trying to decide between an Escape 21 or Bigfoot 21.

One major problem experienced by my stick trailer friends is rodent and insect (usually ants) infestation within the main cabin. Last month, one of my stick trailer training partners told her trailer is infested with field mice. As I have camped with my BF 19 trailer in open fields while on dog training grounds, I added this issue to my list of concerns when trailer shopping.

My impression: One big advantage of a BF 21 (4 seasons) is that rodents & other nasty pests have a hard time getting into the main cabin. Thatís because the bottom of the trailer - including all plumbing pipes - is sealed. And the outside cubby holds (except power cord) donít lead into the main cabin.

I am not sure if the same can be said for Escape 21.

And, keeping an open mind, I concede I may be wrong in assuming Bigfoots are pest proof.

So my question is what experience have Escape & BF 21 owners had with pests?
What did you do about it? Weíre you able to ID & seal off their entry point(s)?

I am particularly interested in hearing from people who have owned both Escape & Bigfoot trailer.

Once again, this is a timely thread as I am trying to make a decision.

Thanks
Jane P.
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Old 05-17-2019, 07:50 PM   #2
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If you have a cord that has to be shoved into the camper you'll get rodents/ants. We've had rodents/ants in every camper with the permanently attached cord at one time or another, including our 25RQ Bigfoot. Those cheap, flexible doors and/or the cord runway don't keep either out. So far no rodents/ants in our Lance or Escape with a detachable electric cord.

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I found dozens of ear wigs guarding the cord hole against intruders. Must have been successful since I found no rodents or insects inside the compartment.
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:49 PM   #4
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I found dozens of ear wigs guarding the cord hole against intruders. Must have been successful since I found no rodents or insects inside the compartment.
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Old 05-18-2019, 04:29 PM   #5
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I had a 17' Escape and currently have a 21' Bigfoot and have never had a problem. The Escape did have a detachable electrical cable. Unlike the Escape design, the Bigfoot electrical cable is pushed into a dedcated, well-sealed compartment. I inspected my compartment and there may be places for ants to get in (I didn't see any places big enough for ants or mice).
Jane, I have to disagree with your statement "And the outside cubby holds (except power cord) don’t lead into the main cabin." As I said, the electrical cable goes into a separate compartment. The outside hatch, like the Escape, open to storage under the bed. But unlike my 17' Escape, I can access it with a drop down door from the main cabin. The space around the door would be big enough for a mouse to enter the main cabin. Your main defense then, is the hatch door. The hatch door used on the Bigfoot (I beleive) seals better and sturdier than the one used on my old Escape.
I believe both are sealed well and you could always add sealant to areas you are concerned about. The Bigfoot tanks and connections are enclosed in a fiberglass shroud which is completely sealed.

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Old 05-19-2019, 06:46 PM   #7
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Let's keep that short list ... short.

BTW, per my chevy service manager a BF 21 is doable. But I'd still want to weigh it before purchase. Don't like surprises.

Good luck this week with your new rig.
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I had a 17' Escape and currently have a 21' Bigfoot and have never had a problem. The Escape did have a detachable electrical cable. Unlike the Escape design, the Bigfoot electrical cable is pushed into a dedcated, well-sealed compartment. I inspected my compartment and there may be places for ants to get in (I didn't see any places big enough for ants or mice).
Jane, I have to disagree with your statement "And the outside cubby holds (except power cord) donít lead into the main cabin." As I said, the electrical cable goes into a separate compartment. The outside hatch, like the Escape, open to storage under the bed. But unlike my 17' Escape, I can access it with a drop down door from the main cabin. The space around the door would be big enough for a mouse to enter the main cabin. Your main defense then, is the hatch door. The hatch door used on the Bigfoot (I beleive) seals better and sturdier than the one used on my old Escape.
I believe both are sealed well and you could always add sealant to areas you are concerned about. The Bigfoot tanks and connections are enclosed in a fiberglass shroud which is completely sealed.

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Hi Ben,
This is exactly the information that I need.

It has been some time since I have been in a BF 21, and I wasn't focused on entry points.

What year is you BF21? Is it a Rear Bed or Forward Bed model. I did not realize that there is storage compartment under the bed with direct access to the cabin.
Also, what sorts of areas do you camp? Do you frequent manicured trailer camp sites, or do you camp adjacent to trails and fields where these unwanated pests lurk?

My BF 19 does have direct cabin access into the electrical compartment via the dinette seat. If I keep this trailer another season, I will consider converting to a detachable power cord.

The 2018 Escape 19 & 21s we looked at do have direct access to the storage under the bed. They also have storage under the dinette which can ba accessed inside of the cabin. This is exactly what got me thinking about potential problems with pests.

Your comments regarding the construct of the outside hatch doors is excellent.
Perhaps the more recent Escape builds include better sealed hatches. Accordingly, perhaps it is possible improve the hatches. I will definitely ask the ETI people next week.

Thank you!
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You just order the trailer with optional disconnect cord, if you are concerned.
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I currently have a 2018 21RB. I never camped with hookups when we had the Escape. With the Bigfoot, it's been about 25%. We mainly go down fire roads in the national forest. We recently moved, but the Escape (and a year of the Bigfoot) was stored in our driveway in San Jose (not a lot of rodent or insect problem). For the last 6 months, the Bigfoot has been in the side yard of of our rural Sierra foothills home, all without issue.
The electrical compartment is under my dinette too but, as I said, the electrical cord stores into a sealed compartment adjacent to it. For the Escape, one reason I chose the detachable cable was that I was not keen on pushing and pulling the cable into the main electrical storage area where it could hang or grab something.

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