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11-10-2018, 12:04 PM
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#21
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 8,259
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Misaligned
Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: All... I can't believe this "Tempest in a tea cup". So you know I just measured our 2014 5.0TA and in front of the upper fish plates one side measures 5" to the pontoon and the other side measures 4 5/8" frame to poontoon.
Due to the controversy I will stop recomending people buy these miss made trailers. They might be better off getting a "Stickey" trailer put together with a staple gun!!! SHEESH Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Hi Alf
After a lifetime of labor , notable drinking jags, and a few fist fights I did not win, I am aware everyday of several misalignments. My mom said I was perfect and I sure hope she wasn’t lying to me. Hope you’re coming into the fall refreshed and prepared for the holidays.
Iowa Dave
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11-10-2018, 12:17 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
Hi Alf
After a lifetime of labor , notable drinking jags, and a few fist fights I did not win, I am aware everyday of several misalignments. My mom said I was perfect and I sure hope she wasn’t lying to me. Hope you’re coming into the fall refreshed and prepared for the holidays.
Iowa Dave
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Hi: Iowa Dave... HA!!! My mom said I was perfect. Perfect idiot, perfect a$$ .... perfect so n so!!!
The last few weeks have found me in not so good health and being "Perfect" it's taking me longer to rebound. I drink far less and maybe that's the problem!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Quote Bugs Bunny..."Don't take life too seriously, none of us get out of it ALIVE"!!!
'16 Ram Eco D. 4X4 Laramie Longhorn CC & '14 Escape 5.0TA
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11-10-2018, 12:54 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DFW, Texas
Trailer: 2018 21 Sept 7 2018
Posts: 1,073
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So Alf when can we expect your 5 to be on the market and which sticky are you going to be going after
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11-10-2018, 01:18 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldtimer
So Alf when can we expect your 5 to be on the market and which sticky are you going to be going after
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Hi: Oldtimer... I'm happy with mine, but then I've been known for being a little off before. I suffer from CDO. That's OCD in alphabetical order. LoL Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Quote Bugs Bunny..."Don't take life too seriously, none of us get out of it ALIVE"!!!
'16 Ram Eco D. 4X4 Laramie Longhorn CC & '14 Escape 5.0TA
St.Thomas (Not the Virgin Islands) Ontario
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11-10-2018, 01:25 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,550
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin
The pictures Rapha provided clearly show a 2" misalignment which would be easily identifiable with the naked eye.
So far three 2nd gen 5.0 owners have identified a 2" body/frame misalignment , Jim's comments seems to indicate his is centered ?
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I can't say for certain mine is centred, as I have not measured. But, my eye usually notices these things and I haven't noticed in the two years of ownership. I will check soon, it is stored only a few blocks away.
BTW, Rapha's body is only 1" off, not 2". If you moved it 2" it would be just as bad the other way. :
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
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11-10-2018, 01:34 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DFW, Texas
Trailer: 2018 21 Sept 7 2018
Posts: 1,073
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Look at this way if it pulls good, sleeps good n keeps beer cold what’s is there to gripe about
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11-10-2018, 01:47 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Southern Alberta, Alberta
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Posts: 1,734
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Well now I just had to go out and look at my first generation 5.0TA and wouldn’t you know it mine looks to be off by the width of my index finger, second knuckle (didn’t think it warranted hauling out the micrometer).
Went in and had a good long ponder over a coffee and came to the conclusion, I loved my trailer yesterday, its still the same trailer today, I’ve washed and waxed under there since 2015 and never noticed it, there’s no functional issues and have decided it’s still perfect.
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11-10-2018, 01:53 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,550
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PGDriver
Went in and had a good long ponder over a coffee........
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And that can certainly take a while at your advanced age.
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
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11-10-2018, 02:01 PM
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#29
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: BOUNTIFUL, Utah
Trailer: 2017 5.0 TA 2017 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel
Posts: 41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldtimer
Look at this way if it pulls good, sleeps good n keeps beer cold what’s is there to gripe about
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It depends on your point of view. What if you have a terminal illness, and the primary reason you purchased this particular trailer is for it’s good reputation and high resale value, and you wanted your wife to be able to sell it for as much as possible when the worst happens? Now you’re worried about how much of a discount a potential buyer is going to want because there are other Escape trailers out there that dont look misaligned like your trailer does. Hell, you only paid $30,000+ for a brand that brags about quality control. Would that be something to gripe about?
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11-10-2018, 02:02 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Southern Alberta, Alberta
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Posts: 1,734
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
And that can certainly take a while at your advanced age.
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Maybe just maybe if your really lucky you be this smart when your my age [emoji41].
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Doug
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11-10-2018, 03:05 PM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin
I do not anticipate anyone taking extensive measurements, the good news is they do not have to. The pictures Rapha provided clearly show a 2" misalignment which would be easily identifiable with the naked eye.
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That sounds simple, but as already discussed the body being off-centre and the trailer's frame being straight are two entirely different things. I haven't even seen anyone report whether a body which is off-centre in this flat area is actually off-centre by that amount when looking at the whole width of the body.
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11-10-2018, 03:19 PM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PGDriver
Maybe just maybe if your really lucky you be this smart when your my age [emoji41].
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Hi: PGDriver... There was a time I was half your age... Now I'm catching up!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Quote Bugs Bunny..."Don't take life too seriously, none of us get out of it ALIVE"!!!
'16 Ram Eco D. 4X4 Laramie Longhorn CC & '14 Escape 5.0TA
St.Thomas (Not the Virgin Islands) Ontario
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11-10-2018, 03:30 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 8,259
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My greatest fear is that when I die, Rita will sell my stuff for what I told her I paid for it.
Iowa Dave
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Ain’t no trouble jacking a double Burma Shave
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11-10-2018, 03:45 PM
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#34
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,050
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When I die, I don't care what happens to my stuff. I plan on wearing it out anyway! I've had too many family members pass that were afraid of using nice things because they always wanted them to stay nice. Heck with that
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Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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11-10-2018, 04:05 PM
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#35
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: n/a, Texas
Trailer: Escape
Posts: 729
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It's easy to tell someone else that they shouldn't complain about their trailer. And, most likely the frame tows straight. But if I went to pick up my new trailer and during the inspection I noticed the body was not aligned with the frame, I would be very reluctant to take possession. I would want an ironclad explanation as to why, a measurement of the frame alignment, and written assurance that the misalignment won't cause problems. Even then...
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11-10-2018, 04:14 PM
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Southern Alberta, Alberta
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Posts: 1,734
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Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: PGDriver... There was a time I was half your age... Now I'm catching up!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Hey Alf I’m pretty sure we’re in the same neck of the woods age wise and same camp when it comes to trailer choice and ice cream cones.
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11-10-2018, 04:35 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: West Coast, Florida
Trailer: None now
Posts: 1,266
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PGDriver
Hey Alf I’m pretty sure we’re in the same neck of the woods age wise and same camp when it comes to trailer choice and ice cream cones.
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Don't let Alfie fool you.
In his mind he is a millennial. For proof here he is taking a picture of his meal to post on instagram.
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11-10-2018, 05:00 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Actually he is taking a selfie through the reflection in the wine bottle......
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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11-10-2018, 05:31 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Victoria, British Columbia
Trailer: 2016/ 5TA Spirit Bear
Posts: 322
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Just did the measurements on my 5. For what it’s worth it’s pretty close to equal on each side ie. dead centre. Doubt if an inch or two out will affect your Tow. Interesting though this is the first time I ever thought to check. Thanks for the post.
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11-10-2018, 05:39 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Naugatuck, Connecticut
Trailer: 2017 50 TA, 2016 F150, 2.7 Ecoboost
Posts: 1,056
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapha
It depends on your point of view. What if you have a terminal illness, and the primary reason you purchased this particular trailer is for it’s good reputation and high resale value, and you wanted your wife to be able to sell it for as much as possible when the worst happens? Now you’re worried about how much of a discount a potential buyer is going to want because there are other Escape trailers out there that dont look misaligned like your trailer does. Hell, you only paid $30,000+ for a brand that brags about quality control. Would that be something to gripe about?
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🤔I think you made a great decision on the Escape. I think what your seeing is manufacturing tolerance and nothing to worry about. Like I said my trailer is not perfectly centered and I never knew it till you brought it up. Not about to go out with my calipers and get a precise measurement cause it makes no difference. I think a perfectly centered one would be the exception. Everything has a manufacturing tolerance. The fit of the body to the frame only has to look good, doesn’t have to be a precision fit. Enjoy your trailer 😎
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