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Old 09-30-2010, 11:37 AM   #11
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Re: Escape Unplugged!

We use our propane furnace when boondocking in cold weather. Our Pelonis is an electric heater so we only use it when we're plugged in. The 110v ac plugs don't work when you're unplugged unless you use an inverter. In the case of a portable electric heater, it would require a powerful inverter to handle the wattage which still wouldn't be advisable b/c portable heaters are power hogs and would drain your battery quickly (even with solar it still wouldn't be a good idea imo).
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Old 09-30-2010, 11:39 AM   #12
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The ceramic disc heaters are 110 vac...so you have to be plugged in. When unplugged we use a catalytic propane heater:
http://www.mrheater.com/product.aspx?catid=41&id=24
It puts our plenty of heat (on either setting) and has both a low-oxygen sensor and a tip-over shutoff. You have to keep a window cracked in the trailer, but with three dogs and the resultant effluvia, we need windows open anyway

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Old 09-30-2010, 11:46 AM   #13
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Re: Escape Unplugged!

I'm very curious about the "standard" furnace -- is it really as loud as everyone's saying it is? I'm guessing it must be, otherwise you all wouldn't have so many extra units ... and if that's the case I start to wonder if it's possible just to get a quieter furnace installed in the trailer to begin with, so that we don't have to buy/carry/run something separate?

We are very very noise sensitive so I am guessing the standard furnace will not make us very happy.
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Old 09-30-2010, 12:01 PM   #14
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Re: Escape Unplugged!

Whether or not the furnace is too bothersome to use depends on the individual. For example, we don't mind it & it doesn't keep us awake but there are plenty of people who have previously posted that it is too noisy for them. The only way to know whether or not it'd bother you personally is to listen to one operating with your own ears - perhaps a return visit to one of the cheesehead contingent's trailers could help you.
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Old 09-30-2010, 01:03 PM   #15
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I have to agree with Brad. We find the furnace much quieter than the furnace on our Casita...but it's "newness" may contribute to that as well. That being said, we didn't mind the (louder) noise of the Casita furnace either. We use the smaller heaters (either gas or electric) maintain the heat at night...the furnace is used to warm the trailer initially and the smaller units to maintain it. The smaller units provide enough warmth for nighttime comfort.

Noise is an interesting thing. We have a friend who can't sleep without the sound of an electric fan (white noise). I suspect many folks object the cycling of the furnace rather than the absolute noise. I've slept through mortar and rocket attacks, but the sound of a dog's nails clicking on our bedroom floor will get me up to let the pup out (which may simply be conditioning to avoid having to clean up accidents). With a lifetime's exposure to jet engine noise and gunfire, my most common opening gambit in any conversation is, "What?"

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Old 09-30-2010, 01:11 PM   #16
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Re: Escape Unplugged!

For those of you using the catalytic heaters, where do you keep them when they are running, especially if you have a dog. And, are there any that can be plumbed in to the trailer gas so one could eliminate those darn disposable bottles?
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Old 09-30-2010, 01:19 PM   #17
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Re: Escape Unplugged!

As a cheese head "I resemble that remark" (the source of that saying is The Three Stooges), but like it or not it is what Wisconsinites are famous for. Elizabeth you are welcome to take another look and listen to my Escape 19. I have only used the furnace once and it is noisy, unbearable noisy? No, especially when considering the alternative of being cold. I found day time use was not that noticeable, it is at night when everything is so quiet. The other factor is just how cold it is outside and what temperature setting you use because that will change the cycle times. Less cycle will be less noise. I guess it will wake you up, you will say to yourself, "OH! That’s the furnace" and drift back to sleep.

I believe the thermostat only goes down to 50, perhaps only the numbers go down to 50 and it can be set lower. Really 50 is not that cold if you have enough covers. I would try to go lower if possible. I have read that the furnace goes through propane at a pretty fast rate; make sure both tanks have something in them.

On our upcoming trip in two weeks we are going to experiment with a cube heater, a Farm Fleet special at $16. Not even sure if it has a fan on it. After reading the above posts I better test it first to see what noise factor is present.

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For those of you using the catalytic heaters, where do you keep them when they are running, especially if you have a dog. And, are there any that can be plumbed in to the trailer gas so one could eliminate those darn disposable bottles?
Jim;
We kept ours on the table. I ran a small fan to pull the hot air from the ceiling to the floor to keep the dogs warm. I ran our heater from a 20 lb tank when I used it in the garage during the winter. I suppose it wouldn't be too difficult to run a hose from one of the trailer's tanks, but its probably much easier to refill the 1 lb bottles. I've been able to refill them as many as three times before the rubber seals failed.
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Old 09-30-2010, 03:05 PM   #19
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Re: Escape Unplugged!

Is one of the reasons for the secondary unit then that the installed unit is actually TOO hot?

Has anyone tried a Vornado Space Heaterhttp://www.amazon.com/Vornado-VH2-Vo.../dp/B00006C7HJ? We have one in the house and like it quite a bit. Not sure what kind of power hog it is tho.

(I'll be in touch, Paul. Heard about a new cheesemaker near Dunbarton, I may need a fix)
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Re: Escape Unplugged!

We've used our furnace a number of times on the "wet" coast.. I haven't found that it used a lot of propane or battery power to cycle on and off.

I DO wear those foam earplugs every night anyway and I can still hear noises and maybe hear the furnace a bit, but it really is background noise. Doug says it doesn't bother him...

We have a small cube heater and I find it much noisier...
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