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Old 06-30-2016, 01:34 PM   #1
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Extension cord/s for Air Conditioner use

Need to live in the trailer during the day for the next week or 2, looking for advise on running the AC and a light or 2 via extension cord/s. I believe the AC is either 10.5 or 11.5 amps.

Have 2 exterior outlets available, one is 15A, the other is 20A, both 120v.

Closest I can get to the 20A is 70'.
Closest to the 15A is 40'.

Camper 30A power cord is 25'.
I have a number of 25' 14awg extensions, anything longer is 16awg.

I have a 30A twist lock to 15A adapter.

The question is what do I need to make this work?

Can I daisy chain one of the 14awg extensions to the campers power cord and run this from the 15A, or do I need to go pick up a 50' 12awg extension and use the 20A?

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Old 06-30-2016, 01:57 PM   #2
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Extension cord/s for Air Conditioner use

I'd use the 20 amp receptacle Bob, and a 12 gauge cord. The start up amps will probably be in the 13-14 range, and your running amps under 10, so a 15 amp supply would still probably work - but not much left for anything else.


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Old 06-30-2016, 02:08 PM   #3
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Bob, since the AC draw is less then 15A, were it me, I'd go with the closer outlet. But once you plug in the inverter will be operating also - do you know what it draws?
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I take it you mean the converter. I had a WFCO converter on my old trailer, it drew .2A with nothing running, never checked this one.

I know I can run the AC on 15A, but I've only done it short term, like when folks are coming over to take a look at the trailer.
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I know I can run the AC on 15A, but I've only done it short term, like when folks are coming over to take a look at the trailer.

Yeah, I don't think it's as much how long you run it but what else do you want to run. Since you mentioned "living" in the trailer during the day, I assume you'd want to have some reserve.




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Old 06-30-2016, 02:23 PM   #6
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I take it you mean the converter. I had a WFCO converter on my old trailer, it drew .2A with nothing running, never checked this one.

I know I can run the AC on 15A, but I've only done it short term, like when folks are coming over to take a look at the trailer.

Opps, yes converter. As long as your total draw is less than 15A, I'd go with the 15, since the longer the extension cord the more voltage drop. But it you get a heavy enough extension cord the voltage drop should be manageable at the longer distance. Or you can hook what you have all up and measure your actual voltage at the end of the cords if you have a voltmeter. Only problem might be overheating the extension cords.
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My thoughts:
  • I wouldn't consider using any of the 16-ga cords - I assume you're not, either.
  • There's no reason you can't daisy-chain cords, although each connection adds a potential problem point, so fewer are better.
  • The trailer's cord is 10-ga, so definitely use that for the first 25 feet. If you're thinking of using the 30A twist lock to 15A adapter to use extension cords instead of the trailer cord - no, I wouldn't do that. You do need a TT-30 (campground outlet style) female to 15A (or 20A) male to chain extensions onto the trailer's cable.
  • Whether it is worth the extra 30 feet of cord to reach the 20-amp outlet depends on
    • whether or not you think you are likely to exceed 15 amps
    • how much length of cable is in the house from the panel to those outlets
    • what else is on each of those two circuits
  • There's no point in going extra distance to the 20-amp outlet if there are any 14 gauge cords in the setup.
  • I would definitely use this as an excuse to get a 12-ga extension, even if I were going to the 15 amp outlet... but I already have two of those (with 15-amp connectors, as they all seem to, even though 12 gauge would be enough for 20-amp use).
  • Princess Auto has a sale price for you: 50ft 10/3 Single Lit End RV Extension Cord. Although you don't need 10-gauge for safety (since you're bottlenecked at 20 amps or 15 amps anyway), this can be used in campgrounds with poorly placed services, or later at the house if you install a 30-amp outlet for the trailer. Even with this sort of extension, you need the adapter to connect to the outlet.

So
  • If I were confident that I would not exceed 15 amps
    I would use the trailer cord plus one extension (or preferably buy a 12-ga) to the 15A outlet, using a TT-30 female to 15A male adapter between cords.
  • If I were not confident that I would stay under 15 amps
    I would use the trailer cord plus one 12-ga extension (which would have to be purchased) to the 20A outlet, using a TT-30 female to 15A male adapter between cords.
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How about using your RV power cable and a 15 amp male to a 30 amp female plug?Century RV electrical adapter 15 amp male to 30 A female Plug 1 New
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Thanks folks, if there is no concern about daisy chaining 2 extensions then I can do either.

I do have one of the little adapters as gharper shows, just need to find it.

Think I'll go see if I can find a 50' 12, it'll work for either. I would feel better being on the 20. Too bad the shade is better near the 15a.
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Yeah, I don't think it's as much how long you run it but what else do you want to run. Since you mentioned "living" in the trailer during the day, I assume you'd want to have some reserve.
I assume that living in the trailer implies using more appliances, so power demand (including peak power demand) would be higher.
Duration can have relevance, too: the longer this setup is used, the greater the chance of forgetting to manage load and exceeding capacity by using something significant while the air conditioner is running (or worse, starting).
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