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Old 12-01-2013, 12:13 AM   #11
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Yeah, but WHERE are those lights? This is from the 19' Escape brochure.
That would be the standard lighting, covering the legally required elements for a wide trailer - none of the upper lights are stop (brake) or turn signals, just clearance markers in the upper corners and the wide vehicle identification group in the middle.

The vertical light strips bracketing the window in the other photos are the additional units - I can only assume that they duplicate the combined stop/turn functions of the main (lower) lamps, but I have no idea if they also run as tail lamps. I've seen them in person on the demo unit at the factory, but not operating.

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On the 21' Escape the brake/turn signals are across the top...
The 21' demo unit at the factory has the three long lamps "across the top" setup; I would have guessed that this was optional, but the 21 Foot Escape product page doesn't list any vehicular lighting options which implies that all those lamps are standard equipment.

The trailer still needs clearance and wide vehicle ID lamps, so I assume that at least part of the outer units run at low intensity to serve as the clearance lamps (although the lower tail lamps could serve this purpose), and that they run at high intensity as stop/turn lamps. The middle one must run as three separate spots to serve as the wide-vehicle ID lamp; these units can usually be wired as a Centre High-Mounted Stop Lamp as well, but in an Escape there would have to be a logic circuit added to pick out the stop function from the two combined stop/turn circuits, or it would be a really awkward setup with the two halves of the same lamp doing different things.

Ideally, one of the few 21' owners who has received their trailer could run each turn signal and the brakes, and tell us what lamps go bright when... maybe even with photos (which is asking a lot, but I'm sure buyers-in-progress would appreciate it - still far too early for me to need it).

I don't like combining lamp functions, so I would rather have separate stop/turn lamps on the sides like the 19' shown. It would be even better to wire the trailer for a dedicated stop signal on the auxiliary pin of the connector and run a stop-only lamp under the centre of the rear window - that clearly says "stop" to following drivers.

My current Boler is essentially like a stock (no extra lights) Escape 19'... just combined lamps which are hard to see because they are down low, and required wide-trailer clearance and ID lights on top. I wouldn't set it up that way if I were choosing a configuration.
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Old 12-01-2013, 06:49 AM   #12
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extra tail lights

My new 21 has the three lights across above the rear window. The center is clearance only and the left and right duplicate the lower lights, tail, turn and stop. Very bright at night and the stop/signal are bright during the day, very useful driving through LA and wanting to change lanes.
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Old 12-01-2013, 08:44 AM   #13
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The bottomline is it looks like anyone ordering a 21' or new 5er doesn't need to put the extra taillights on their build sheet to have enough/correct lights to clear bicycles, etc. on the rear. Cool beans! Scratch $95 off the build sheet!
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:42 AM   #14
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What Donna said, Yay!
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:49 PM   #15
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My new 21 has the three lights across above the rear window. The center is clearance only and the left and right duplicate the lower lights, tail, turn and stop.
Excellent - thanks Jack!

The centre "clearance" lights are the wide-vehicle identification group that I mentioned; they can be at any height but are usually put up top when that location is available. I'm glad they're not mixed up with other functions.
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Old 12-01-2013, 02:24 PM   #16
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What Donna said, Yay!
Don't know about you Vicki, but for me it just means I'll be spending it on something else. It doesn't mean Escape isn't getting it one way or the other
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Don't know about you Vicki, but for me it just means I'll be spending it on something else. It doesn't mean Escape isn't getting it one way or the other
Ain't that the truth!
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