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Old 02-06-2018, 10:21 AM   #1
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Fastway E2 change from 2016

All, I have a 2016 17B with a Fastway E2 Weight Distribution Hitch. From the start, I have had issues where the L-Pin would grip the Trunnion bar and pop like crazy during turns. Eventually, it would cause the L-bracket to shift position and no longer be perpendicular to the camper frame. I have loosened, adjusted, and re-torqued frame brackets twice. After this last trip, I noticed one the frame brackets with a slight bow. This is usually due to improperly torqueing the top and bottom bolts in an even manner or the wrong brackets. The reason I mention the wrong bracket, some frames (not Escape) may be 4 3/8 in and you need a different set of brackets. Anyway, my bracket was installed by Escape and, of course, the correct one.

With all of this popping and shifting, one of the L-pins that keep the Trunnion bars in place has been bent and the issue is worse. Actually, the pin can be difficult to remove due to its "wedging" and gripping the Trunnion bar. Sometimes you have to firmly tap the pin from underneath to free it. So, bent L-pin and warped frame bracket...I called Fastway and ordered new parts. I ordered kits for both sides of the camper frame. I get the parts and low and behold...a redesign!!! The L-pin is made so that it doesn’t settle down and pinch the Trunnion bar. The Frame brackets have pockets so the bolts hide within and you have better surface contact between the frame bracket the L-Bracket. Anyway, the L-pin itself was enough to excite me. Attached pic of the old (bent) and new pin.
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:38 AM   #2
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I recently ordered those exact same pins from Amazon, because I was tired of struggling to pull those cotter pins out.
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Old 02-06-2018, 10:53 AM   #3
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I agree. Every time I pushed or pulled the cotter pin, I feared of drawing blood. But the design to not let the L-pin settle down and pinch the bar, is worth the upgrade too!
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Old 02-06-2018, 11:35 AM   #4
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I wondered why someone had a set of the original
style pins and r clips on the free tarp at Niagara last fall. Now I know. They must have already upgraded to the new style. Looks like a better set up. I do not have this hitch but understand binding up. Whenever the park guys couldn’t get a pin out of an implement, they would say “Get me a persuader, she’s in a bayou.”
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I don’t have the hitch either but when using pins I always switch to this spring loop design. Works much smoother and provides more area for your finger as it is double design.
I just keep the single action ones around as a backup.
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I bought a couple of linch pins (the upper pins in the photo).
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I switched to the newer pins, due to another post on this forum recommending them. I love 'em! I hated those cotter pins. On my recent 2 month trip I showed more than one camper the new pins and they liked 'em as well and were going to order them.
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All, I have a 2016 17B with a Fastway E2 Weight Distribution Hitch. From the start, I have had issues where the L-Pin would grip the Trunnion bar and pop like crazy during turns. Eventually, it would cause the L-bracket to shift position and no longer be perpendicular to the camper frame. I have loosened, adjusted, and re-torqued frame brackets twice. After this last trip, I noticed one the frame brackets with a slight bow. This is usually due to improperly torqueing the top and bottom bolts in an even manner or the wrong brackets. The reason I mention the wrong bracket, some frames (not Escape) may be 4 3/8 in and you need a different set of brackets. Anyway, my bracket was installed by Escape and, of course, the correct one.

With all of this popping and shifting, one of the L-pins that keep the Trunnion bars in place has been bent and the issue is worse. Actually, the pin can be difficult to remove due to its "wedging" and gripping the Trunnion bar. Sometimes you have to firmly tap the pin from underneath to free it. So, bent L-pin and warped frame bracket...I called Fastway and ordered new parts. I ordered kits for both sides of the camper frame. I get the parts and low and behold...a redesign!!! The L-pin is made so that it doesn’t settle down and pinch the Trunnion bar. The Frame brackets have pockets so the bolts hide within and you have better surface contact between the frame bracket the L-Bracket. Anyway, the L-pin itself was enough to excite me. Attached pic of the old (bent) and new pin.
Yes the newer L pins are great! No more knocking skin off my knuckles getting the older cotter pins out. I had the same problem as others with shifting frame brackets. I removed and retorqued the bolts, then had to do it a second time and also changed to these new L pins. So far the frame brackets have not shifted again, and I have not replaced them, but I keep looking to see if it has happened again. I did not know there was a redesign of the frame brackets, and I would love to see photos of the new frame brackets and how they differ from the older ones.
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I replaced the frame brackets due to a slight bow that occurred after multiple loosening/re-torquing sessions. At the time, I was unaware of the new L-pins. With hindsight, the new L-pins would have been sufficient. As you can see in the photo (thread marks) , it appears the frame brackets were fastened 4 different times (Once at ETI and 3 different re-adjustments by me.

The new frame bracket has pockets where the frame bolts head hide. Before, the L-bracket did not sandwich against the frame bracket but pressed against the frame bolt heads. You can see the outside frame bracket is thicker than the inside since it has the bolt head pocket. Also, I noticed the new frame bolts aren't threaded the entire length (see thread scuff in frame).

Since replacement, I have towed the camper across the country without any slippage/rotation of the brackets. The new L-pin design keeps the Trunnion bars in the bracket without binding!

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Interesting that some folks have had their bars warp/bend/distort. Knock on wood, I've not had that problem. Nor have I had to readjust from what ETI did at delivery. Whew!
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