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Old 11-07-2015, 01:26 AM   #11
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Here's what I do, which isn't what is suggested in the Help forum.

I click on Go Advanced.
That brings up the posting forum with a paper clip icon at the top of the message box.
I click on that and it brings up a window for attaching pix or video. I click on browse, which allows me to find the pix in my computer. I find it easiest to place them on my desktop before I start the message so I don't have to look for them.
I click on browse and select one pic at a time to a maximum of four and then I click Upload.
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Old 11-07-2015, 02:02 AM   #12
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Ecape 19' two pictures of fractured chassis.

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Old 11-07-2015, 06:42 AM   #13
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Is that at the welded angle joint? I does appear to be, as the stabilizer attaches to the cross member that is right behind it. Maybe a wider picture showing more of the trailer would be good.

Maybe I have missed this, but have you shared this with Reace yet. I am sure he would like to hear what has happened there.
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Old 11-07-2015, 07:51 AM   #14
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Absolutely. Reace was the first person to be informed. In fact he suggested that we fortify the fractured section with a 3/8" plate. Also burrowing holes in this plate before welding it to the chassis. These cavities would serve as weld spots, not to weaken the existing 3" chassis.
However, since I reside in the province of Quebec, you will understand that he is far from the trailer. So this problem has to be assessed and repaired by a local expert. I will know better by Monday when a protocol is proposed.
A follow-up will be forthcoming.
I wish to thank everyone for their interest in my problem and especially this FORUM for being able to share this information and no doubt its eventual solution. I will send a larger picture view of my trailer for those of you who expressed difficulty orienting the chassis fracture on previous pictures.

By the way, I still LOVE my 19' Escape very much. I consider this chassis a serious but temporary problem and intend to keep my trailer for a very long time.

Kind regards and thank-you to Reace for his on going support.

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Old 11-07-2015, 07:58 AM   #15
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By the way, I still LOVE my 19' Escape very much. I consider this chassis a serious but temporary problem and intend to keep my trailer for a very long time.
This is a great attitude for dealing with a problem.
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Old 11-07-2015, 11:46 AM   #16
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Suggest you visually inspect the rest of the frame and the frame to cabin attach bolts for signs of buckling or deformation. The adjacent fiberglass around the frame to cabin attach bolts should also be checked for cracks. The inspection should be the most thorough closer to the break.

You may also want to check the frame to cabin attach bolts to make sure none are severed or cracked. A moderate applied torque should be adequate to show they are not damaged.

The frame load path was significantly altered by the break, those loads took an alternate path through the frame and probably the cabin structure.
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Old 11-07-2015, 12:46 PM   #17
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[QUOTE=RWD;117388
I will know better by Monday when a protocol is proposed.

RWD[/QUOTE]

I hope you don't mind a suggestion on what that protocol might include. If I had to do this repair on my trailer I'd drill some small holes upwards on either side of the damage. These would locate the floor area, hopefully inside the locker, that is directly above the damage. I'd remove a 4" square of floor to gain access to the top of the frame and be able to weld the complete circumference of the frame. Then I'd weld plates on the sides.

Good luck with the repair.

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Old 11-07-2015, 02:22 PM   #18
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The fractured on the chassis occurred posterior to the weld. Just behind the steel reinforcement plate that serves as an anchor to the stabilizer jack.
Although that describes the location, from the photos what seems perhaps more relevant to me is the bolt and nut visible immediately ahead of the break. If I understand what I am seeing correctly, this is a the end of a bolt which holds the body to the frame - unrelated to the stabilizer jack - which goes right through the top and bottom of the frame. This makes holes in the most highly stressed areas of the frame rail, and increases the risk of a crack at the bottom where the steel is loaded in tension... especially if the weld-affected area due to welding on the stabilizer bracket extends to the area of the hole.

Does the crack go through the bolt hole, or is it completely separate (and just very close behind the hole)?

I note that for this model the reinforcement to address potential issues with the tongue-to-main-rail joint is accompanied by brackets to secure the body which do not use a vertical hole right through the frame this way. In the repair, I would certainly want that body bolt hole to be plated over, and the body mounting bolt relocated to a right-angle bracket welded (or bolted) to the side of the frame rail.
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Old 11-07-2015, 03:17 PM   #19
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Does the crack go through the bolt hole, or is it completely separate (and just very close behind the hole)?
That puzzles me also. I'd expect that the crack would have propagated right through the center of the bolt hole.

It appears that the washer and nut may have been tacked on to prevent them from loosening and that the crack is immediately behind them.

I guess the photo was taken with a flash and it's illuminated the interior of the tube. I wondered at first why so much "daylight" was visible.

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Old 11-07-2015, 06:47 PM   #20
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This instance of frame seperation at or near the bolt that goes through the 3" frame gives some insight to explain the right angle bracket that is welded on the frame in addition to the mend plate provided to owners of escape 19 trailers. The right angle bracket is welded to the frame and bolted through the floor forward of the bolt through the frame.
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