generator choice - Page 2 - Escape Trailer Owners Community
Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×

Go Back   Escape Trailer Owners Community > Escape Tech > Problem Solving | Owners helping each other
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 08-10-2015, 01:44 PM   #21
Commercial Member
 
tractors1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,945
Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin View Post
I have a Honda 2000, bought for charging the batteries although it is rarely used. I have tried the A/C and it does indeed work although I had to disable the surge protector. I've heard it takes more power if it's really hot out or at altitude, so that should be verified. If I were buying one for the purpose of running the A/C I'd go for the Yamaha 2400.

To me, even the Honda is too loud.
The reason the surge protector (the Escape EMS, in mine) objects to a generator is the lack of a common ground between the generator and the trailer. I turn mine off before firing the generator up.
__________________
Charlie Y

Need custom storage to your design? Don't drill holes!
www.RVWidgetWorks.com
tractors1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 02:43 PM   #22
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Olympia wa, Washington
Trailer: 5.0TA 2017
Posts: 2,255
how do you turn off your surge protector/escape EMS
Fox hunt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 02:52 PM   #23
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
Posts: 7,124
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox hunt View Post
how do you turn off your surge protector/escape EMS
There is a button/switch on the status panel.
__________________
Happy Motoring
Bob
padlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 03:10 PM   #24
Senior Member
 
craiginpetaluma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: petaluma, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21 2002 Tundra 4x4 V-8 tow package.
Posts: 163
I started with one Honda 2000 to run a rotisserie BBQ at street fairs. I was drawing 8-12 amps at peek load which made the generator run at high RPM, that's loud . AT Idle It's very quite. So I added a second Honda 2000 to run in series, now they both just Idled and was much quieter. Running 2 smaller generators at Idle was a good option for me as my neighbors did not like the single Honda running at high RPM. But 2 at Idle was acceptable .Also I did not have a large enough single space to haul a larger one, finding 2 smaller spots for storage was easier. The 2000 is light enough for anyone to move easily.
craiginpetaluma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 03:13 PM   #25
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Olympia wa, Washington
Trailer: 5.0TA 2017
Posts: 2,255
when you do two hondas in series do they need to be the same size could you do the 2000 with the little 1000?
Fox hunt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 03:28 PM   #26
Senior Member
 
PGDriver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Southern Alberta, Alberta
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Posts: 1,734
Series would give you 220 volts 2000 watts. Parallel would give you 110 volts 4000 watts.

Cheers
Doug
__________________
Cheers
Doug
PGDriver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 03:46 PM   #27
Senior Member
 
Jim Bennett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,543
They should be the same size. Manufacturers make kits Hi do just this
__________________
2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
Jim Bennett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 04:06 PM   #28
Commercial Member
 
tractors1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,945
The Honda 2000i and the Honda 2000 Companion are two different generators with different features. The Companion doesn't have the 12V capability; the two connect by using a Honda manufactured special parallel electrical cord. They must run in sync to have the AC output waveforms (60Hz) not conflict.

Honda EU2000i Companion Model Info | 2000 Watt Inverter Generator | Honda Generators
__________________
Charlie Y

Need custom storage to your design? Don't drill holes!
www.RVWidgetWorks.com
tractors1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 04:30 PM   #29
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Pensacola, Florida
Trailer: 21' Escape (June 2014)
Posts: 325
A couple of years ago (or so), Trailer Life did an article on generators and they picked the Yamaha as their favorite. Sorry, but I wasn't in the market for one so I don't remember the reasons why.
Ray N is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 04:37 PM   #30
Senior Member
 
gbaglo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray N View Post
A couple of years ago (or so), Trailer Life did an article on generators and they picked the Yamaha as their favorite. Sorry, but I wasn't in the market for one so I don't remember the reasons why.
Probably because they bought a double-truck full colour ad.
__________________
What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
gbaglo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 05:37 PM   #31
Senior Member
 
Patandlinda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
Here's another vote for Honda. Bought my Honda generator about 23 years ago . Put the oil in ,ran it then ,emptied the gas, in tank and carb . covered generator and forgot about it . I only have a 80 watt folding panel so decided to see if it would start . Checked that it had oil , put gas in and gen started right up . So I changed to fresh oil and have been bringing now when I don't have hookups . Found I have to shut off surge . It is only a 1000 watt . Can't do AC . but is charges up the batteries real good , It is metal , has a gas gauge . Very fancy for it's day and all everyone needed then . Looks like new so I think I will keep it .Oh it even carries spark wench and screwdrivers under metal flap on Generator . Pat
Attached Thumbnails
IMG_0284.jpg  
Patandlinda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 06:32 PM   #32
Senior Member
 
cpaharley2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
When using a generator one must disable the EMS as it senses an incorrect wiring issue since the generator is not grounded. Either bypass the EMS via the switch or there is a plug in widget which fools the EMS into thinking there is a ground.
__________________
Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
cpaharley2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 07:10 PM   #33
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Trailer: 2014 17b/ 2012 Chevy Colorado
Posts: 736
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008 View Post
When using a generator one must disable the EMS as it senses an incorrect wiring issue since the generator is not grounded. Either bypass the EMS via the switch or there is a plug in widget which fools the EMS into thinking there is a ground.
Here is now to make the "plug in widget" and why you need it. Generator Ground-Neutral Bonding | No~Shock~Zone We have the 2000 watt tri fuel Yamaha generator matched with a Polar Cub 9200 AC. Wicked finicky to adjust but seems to work ok now.
yardsale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 07:13 PM   #34
Senior Member
 
cpaharley2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
Thanks Nick,
It has been awhile since I used a generator but my memory is still there, somewhat.
__________________
Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
cpaharley2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 07:28 PM   #35
Senior Member
 
Patandlinda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008 View Post
When using a generator one must disable the EMS as it senses an incorrect wiring issue since the generator is not grounded. Either bypass the EMS via the switch or there is a plug in widget which fools the EMS into thinking there is a ground.
My brother made me one . Didn't work so I just slide the slide over on the bottom of the remote ,to shut down the surge . I turn the surge back on when generator is not hooked up . It is a plug wired to fool generator to think it is grounded but it didn't work for me . I could also get a long battery cable , put it on my ground on generator then attach somewhere to my trailer frame . Maybe . Pat
Patandlinda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2015, 07:29 PM   #36
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Trailer: 2014 17b/ 2012 Chevy Colorado
Posts: 736
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008 View Post
Thanks Nick,
It has been awhile since I used a generator but my memory is still there, somewhat.
I'm with ya. We don't use ours much as the 160w panel has been so robust!
yardsale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2015, 01:28 AM   #37
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
Trailer: 2013, 17B 'Mini Pearl' and a 2010 Highlander
Posts: 400
I have a Honda 3000 because it is so quiet.
My wife decided it was the one for us.
We don't enjoy generators running and it is very hard to hear a 3000 running.
But it takes two people to lift it into the back of my truck.
And the Surge protector prevents it from running the A/C.
It complains about E6 no ground.
Now, in one of the posts in this thread it tells how to wire a plug to fool it.
I'm going to have to try that.
jxoco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2015, 07:20 AM   #38
Senior Member
 
C&G in FL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA (Little Elsie) Extensively Personalized
Posts: 2,969
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda View Post
I could also get a long battery cable , put it on my ground on generator then attach somewhere to my trailer frame . Maybe . Pat
I don't know for certain, but I would think a ground wire from the generator to a metallic rod pounded into the soil a couple of feet might also work.
__________________
What a long strange trip it’s been!
C&G in FL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2015, 07:53 AM   #39
Senior Member
 
cpaharley2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
Quote:
Originally Posted by jxoco View Post
I have a Honda 3000 because it is so quiet.
My wife decided it was the one for us.
We don't enjoy generators running and it is very hard to hear a 3000 running.
But it takes two people to lift it into the back of my truck.
And the Surge protector prevents it from running the A/C.
It complains about E6 no ground.
Now, in one of the posts in this thread it tells how to wire a plug to fool it.
I'm going to have to try that.
You can also turn off the surge guard via the little switch on the display, maybe easier. Just remember to turn back on when hooking up to electric.
__________________
Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
cpaharley2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2015, 07:54 AM   #40
Senior Member
 
cpaharley2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
Quote:
Originally Posted by C&G in FL View Post
I don't know for certain, but I would think a ground wire from the generator to a metallic rod pounded into the soil a couple of feet might also work.
Nope, tried that, even tried grounding to the trailer !
__________________
Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
cpaharley2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Escape Trailer Industries or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2023 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.