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Old 09-23-2010, 02:58 PM   #1
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Handy facts and tips - please help!

I am going to start a list of handy facts, hard-learned lessons, and tips regarding our Escape trailers. It will consist of various hardware-related tidbits (like which fuses are required...I don't know yet myself), various fastener sizes and types, electrical facts and other minutiae.

What I need from you:

If you good folks will dig through your files and help me comb this, or other forums for handy stuff, I will format it and provide .pdfs for all of us to use.

You can send me info via PMs or post on this thread.

Here's an example of a bit of a thread I ripped off from the original poster:

"<snip>Tammy informs me that socket required is 13 /16 " and you can jack anywhere on the frame. In the shop she says they usually jack just forward of the wheel."

baglo


Once I gather enough stuff I will let you all see what I've got and we can add edits/corrections/and suggestions.

Dave
(delivery date for our new 5.0 is now Sunday 26 September...as long as the driver doesn't run into another series of blizzards)
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Old 09-23-2010, 08:27 PM   #2
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Re: Handy facts and tips - please help!

Great idea!! If you like we can put it up as "sticky", that way it's higher up on the page. Probably post it under the documents sub topic
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:09 PM   #3
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Back in 2006 I started a project that was very similar. In fact, I&#39;ve got dozens of ideas archived. What I would encourage you to do, is to give credit to the individual that originally posted the info. AND, if it&#39;s "borrowed" from a website (like CasitaClub, FiberglassRV, etc.) that you also credit that source. Maybe I&#39;m just being sensitive after taking a course in copyright info and fair use. I&#39;d hate like the dickens if Jeff got in the grease because these "rules" are not followed. After all, just because it&#39;s posted in a "public" forum doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;s fair game to "borrow."

On edit: this is the info from CasitaForum:
"NOTICE: The photos and information on this website are for the enjoyment of our members and guests and are not to be copied and posted on other websites without the consent of the webmaster. The photos are the property of CasitaForum.com" as found here: http://www.casitaforum.com/invboard/...ion=boardrules

and from CasitaClub: "You agree, through use of this service, that anything posted, whether text or image, becomes the property of Anderson Outdoors for permanent use on the forums or website with full use to its members" as found here: http://www.casitaclub.com/forums/ind...act=boardrules.

And FiberglassRV:
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I&#39;m not trying to put a damper on your idea Dave. Just want everyone to be "safe."

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Old 09-24-2010, 01:13 AM   #4
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Donna;
Thank you for your post and the concern demonstrated by it.

Over the years I have gathered literally hundreds of RV tips and tricks from various sources, and I couldn't identify those sources on a bet. I have no intent on selling that information, but will gladly share it with anyone who is interested. For example, I must have five different examples of pre- and post-trip checklists from various sources, the gist of which I have combined into the checklist I use. Unless the concept of "pull the chocks before you drive away" is copyrighted, I think I'm in the clear to publish my version of the list.

If someone sees something in the (proposed) list which they feel is proprietary information, I will gladly remove it. I don't see it happening as, for instance, the proprietary techniques Reace uses to join the upper and lower halves of our trailers are beyond the scope of a "handy tips" list for campers. I would however, publish a list of the sizes of the various wrench sizes needed to keep the trailers tight or the fuses needed as replacement parts.

If Reace and Tammy, Jeff, or the forum members are concerned with this project, I'll happily shelve it, or take it "off-line." I leave it in your hands.

Dave

p.s.: Please don't think I am upset by your post, Donna. I take it in the spirit with which it was offered.

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Old 09-24-2010, 01:58 AM   #5
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Re: Handy facts and tips - please help!

Dave,

Your idea and your offer to do the work involved gets my approval, umpteen times.

As far as copyright goes, I'm not a lawyer, but if you amalgamate posts and information ( what do you think Google does? ) about RV and simply post a one-sentence disclaimer - " it's not my fault " you don't have to give credit to anybody. You probably don't have to even post the disclaimer.

And, if Wikipedia is any example, where anybody can enter information, write a bio for instance and have others revise it and rewrite history according to their view, I can't see any issues.

It's always polite to give credit for ideas, but, how do you determine who was the originator?

I expect that material on FGRV and other RV sites came from somewhere or maybe was original ( not likely ).

We all get ideas from one another and sharing those ideas is what matters.

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Old 09-24-2010, 09:47 AM   #6
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Re: Handy facts and tips - please help!

I use lists for packing all the time. I have one for canoeing, hiking, Escaping, hunting and fishing, travel to sunny destinations, camera gear, etc.

Other things like procedures done annually are a good idea too, especially for those folks not familiar with the various processes.

There are also some lists out there on setting up and tearing down your trailer that are just WAY to particular. Most of these things really should be common sense, and not something relied on in a list. I saw one that included various scenarios as well. I mean, do you really need to put on a list stuff like locking the trailer door or taking the trash to the bin?
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Re: Handy facts and tips - please help!

For instance, item # 27 on the "Pre-Departure" section might be, "Ensure wife is in the car with seatbelt fastened."

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For instance, item # 27 on the "Pre-Departure" section might be, "Ensure wife is in the car with seatbelt fastened."

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Is there a #27B option, "Ensure wife is chained to the picnic table, and rapidly depart site" ?
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Thank you for your post and the concern demonstrated by it.

Dave

p.s.: Please don't think I am upset by your post, Donna. I take it in the spirit with which it was offered.
No problemo. As I said, I'm a bit sensitive to the issue right now. Just remember, the Devil is in the details!
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If someone posts something that requires us to take it down, guess what we take it down, but until then we go for it..

As for chaining significant others to picnic tables and making a run for it..well then gun it!
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