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Old 07-29-2015, 11:07 PM   #1
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Headliner Separation and Sagging

My headliner is separating from the roof in the front of my 2012 Escape 19". It is sagging down across the front about 4-5 inches. I have been traveling betwwen extremely hot conditions to cool this summer. Perhaps that caused the foam or adhesive to break down? Does any one have a method to reattach by injecting adhesive under the headliner (preferred), or reattaching with capped screws? Cant find a thread that addresses this problem. Thanks!
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:16 PM   #2
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If it were me I would visit a good auto upholsterer for advice.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:25 PM   #3
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Or ETI.
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Old 07-29-2015, 11:28 PM   #4
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does it feel like there might be water up there? It doesn't take much, it can get hot and the humid air creates a slight pressure. or do you think it's just the weight of the vinyl and reflectix?.
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This seperation is VERY common with all molded towables, of any age. Just read the archives on FiberglassRV. OH my stars.

There's lots of folks asking about attaching "stuff" to the walls and then I READ where folks need to reattach the headliner.

THIS is NOT your sticks and bricks home. IMHO do NOT try to attach anything to the vinyl wall covering. Some time down the line, you'll be asking "how do I reattach the vinyl."

If and when the time comes for Ten Forward, I'll use whatever an automotive mechanic suggests for reattaching a headliner or vinyl roof... those folks are used to dealing with heat... or temperature swings.
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Old 07-30-2015, 12:06 AM   #6
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This is a common issue in older moulded fiberglass trailers, which commonly have a glued-on foam-backed liner. If you try to follow suggestions from others with a similar issue, watch out for different kinds of liner: the Escape liner has a relatively lightweight soft foam, but many older trailers (particularly Bolers and Trilliums) have a material called Ensolite with a very dense (closed cell) rubber foam. I suspect the best adhesive for Ensolite is not the best for the Escape's headliner.

I would want to check if the headliner has come away from the Reflectix (the insulation), or both have come away from the fiberglass, or there's no Reflectix.

My Boler has a similar foam liner (with no other insulation under it). I used a 3M spray adhesive to re-attach some it it after peeling it out of the way for a MaxxFan installation. There are multiple aerosol spray adhesives from 3M, all can be a bit nasty (fumes), and people have varying results with them. Sorry, I realize that isn't terribly useful...
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Foam gets hard and crusty. Nature of the beast (petroluem products). There are lots of solutions available. It really does depend on your level of comfort and ability....
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My headliner is separating from the roof in the front of my 2012 Escape 19". It is sagging down across the front about 4-5 inches. I have been traveling betwwen extremely hot conditions to cool this summer. Perhaps that caused the foam or adhesive to break down? Does any one have a method to reattach by injecting adhesive under the headliner (preferred), or reattaching with capped screws? Cant find a thread that addresses this problem. Thanks!
The only definite answer is capped screws aren't the way to go. If there was a core that would feasible.

I looked at how my headliner was installed. It appears to extend from cabinet to cabinet but not into the cabinet. I guess if I had the same problem I would remove the cabinets, they're only screwed in and expose the headliner edges. I'd then gently peel it back and spray adhesive it, and put it back.

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This seperation is VERY common with all molded towables, of any age
Foam gets hard and crusty. Nature of the beast (petroluem products). There are lots of solutions available. It really does depend on your level of comfort and ability....
Within two years ?
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Old 07-30-2015, 11:50 AM   #10
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If the problem area is up front in the central area and you don't have a dinette light you could kill two birds with one stone. Install a dinette light as several of us have and get direct access to the problem area.

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