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03-16-2019, 06:17 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Seattle, Washington
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Help, plrase. Where is the GFCI on the 2018 Escape 19
When we came back to the trailer after a 4 day absence, the GFCI-protected kitchen outlet would not work. It appears there had been a brief power failure but all other outlets were back on.
We cannot locate the reset switch. Does anyone know where it is on the 2018 Escape 19?
By the way, nothing had been plugged in to the kitchen or exterior outlets and we do not understand why the circuit would have been interrupted.
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03-16-2019, 06:37 PM
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Site Team
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Location: Mid Left Coast, California
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the inside outlets on the kitchen side are slaved to the outdoor outlet's GFCI
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03-16-2019, 07:14 PM
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And you are not the first person who had to ask. So don’t feel bad.
Iowa Dave
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03-17-2019, 09:34 AM
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Thank you --- but where specifically is it?
We have skirted the trailer because we are using it as a ski cabin, and cannot see anything below the windows.
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03-17-2019, 09:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by egraham
Thank you --- but where specifically is it?
We have skirted the trailer because we are using it as a ski cabin, and cannot see anything below the windows.
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The white flip up cover next to the wheel well on the passenger side.
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03-17-2019, 01:14 PM
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Site Team
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same place on my 21, just about directly above the back of the rear tire on the curb side... the reset button is in the middle of the duplex outlet under the covers.
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03-17-2019, 01:47 PM
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Location: Boulder, Colorado
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Good info! I too have wondered where the GFI is on our 2018 19'er. Such "gems" keep reminding me to check in on the forum regularly. Thankx!
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03-17-2019, 08:41 PM
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Thank you, thank you! We cut a slit in the skirt in just the right spot when we came back from skiing, and I can now make coffee tomorrow morning.
BUT WHY DID THE CIRCUIT TRIP IN THE FIRST PLACE ?
There have been two power outages since we brought the trailer to Whistler last December 1. One was confined to our site and two other sites, the second was Whistler-wide. In neither outage was the GFCI triggered; when power returned, the protected outlets worked again without our having to reset the GFCI button. We had nothing plugged into any of the protected outlets while we were gone last week, so we do not understand.
Is there an electrical maven who can explain?
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03-17-2019, 08:48 PM
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Location: Boulder, Colorado
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While I'm no electrical engineer or expert at house (120v) wiring, I do that a power surge in one set of wires, can cause a voltage/current spike in nearby wiring. That's basically how generators/electric motors work - alternating current in one set of wires creates a current in a separate set. So, if there was a large spike in the local wiring, it might have set up a current in the trailer's wiring, causing the GFI to trip. Years ago we had a lightning strike near our home in Colorado which basically blew out all electronic appliances in the house, tho' not the electric motors.
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03-17-2019, 09:46 PM
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I've had my GFCI trip after a particularlly heavy rain storm, I think the outside outlet gets wet, and starts conducting ground current even tho there's no load on any of those circuits.
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03-17-2019, 09:50 PM
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Location: Baytown, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by egraham
Thank you, thank you! We cut a slit in the skirt in just the right spot when we came back from skiing, and I can now make coffee tomorrow morning.
BUT WHY DID THE CIRCUIT TRIP IN THE FIRST PLACE ?
There have been two power outages since we brought the trailer to Whistler last December 1. One was confined to our site and two other sites, the second was Whistler-wide. In neither outage was the GFCI triggered; when power returned, the protected outlets worked again without our having to reset the GFCI button. We had nothing plugged into any of the protected outlets while we were gone last week, so we do not understand.
Is there an electrical maven who can explain?
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Ground faults occur when electrical current finds an unintended path to ground. Most likely, your outdoor GFCI outlet tripped due to one of these 3 problems: - There's a ground fault somewhere in the circuit.
- Moisture invaded the receptacle box.
- The GFCI outlet is faulty.
My guess since you had the outside GFCI underneath a skirt, would be 2.
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03-17-2019, 11:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
I've had my GFCI trip after a particularlly heavy rain storm, I think the outside outlet gets wet, and starts conducting ground current even tho there's no load on any of those circuits.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tdf-texas
2. Moisture invaded the receptacle box.
My guess since you had the outside GFCI underneath a skirt, would be 2.
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This was my thought too. There is a high probability that this is the issue. You could try covering the outlet with plastic and use painters tape sealed to the trailer around the perimeter. That should stop the infiltration of moisture.
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03-17-2019, 11:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
This was my thought too. There is a high probability that this is the issue. You could try covering the outlet with plastic and use painters tape sealed to the trailer around the perimeter. That should stop the infiltration of moisture.
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There's also the likelihood that moisture from inside the trailer is condensing on the cold GFCI outlet.
This is conjecture on my part as we don't do much snow in Houston TX. Rain - lots of that but snow, not too much.
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