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Old 08-24-2016, 08:55 PM   #21
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Does one use air pumps to fill these or what to inflate them?
It came with a bicycle type pump that works well, but I bought their two-stage pump. The first stage is higher volume with low pressure, then once inflated it automatically flips into high pressure gear until fully pressurized. The call this a high pressure inflation of 10 psi. It really is solid, as you can jump up and down inside the canoe and it barely flexes.
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Old 08-25-2016, 01:25 AM   #22
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We have a Sea Eagle 385 Fast Track and I highly recommend it. It is extremely rugged , plenty of toom for 2 people and tracks extremely well. We can inflate it off the car battery and be in the water in 5 minutes. Easy for one person to handle or two. Takes up very little space in the back of my truck and no fighting to get it up and tied down. I will very go back to a hard kayak.
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Not a canoe, but I got in on the Kickstarter campgaign for a new "nesting" kayak called Pakayak. It should be here in March, about a month before the Escape. The Pakayak comes apart into 6 pieces that nest one inside each other and also comes with a backpack to carry it wherever you want to go. I believe it's 24" wide and about 39" "long" when dismantled. They had 4 of them in the back of an SUV. Apparently, it actually performs very well and goes together with patented clamps in under 5 minutes! Can't wait!
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:44 AM   #24
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I used to do a bunch of kayaking, but now much prefer a canoe for various reasons. I find them way more comfortable with the range of motion they allow. They also allow a lot more cargo room, including room for a dog if desired, and I love carrying lots of gear. I find paddling a lot easier too, as most two person kayaks require you to paddle in perfect unison, or your paddles hit causing grief, at least that has been my experience.

One boat for the two of us plus Jasper is really what we want, we don't want to have separate boats.

Plus, we do a lot of rivers, so that played big into the choice, and the TC16 is good for Class III, which is the biggest rapids I run.

There are definitely lots of choices out there, and kinda like our trailers, we must make some kinda compromise to suit our individual preferences. The key is to be able to get out on the water if you wish.
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On this past trip, I put the canoe in the back seat of the truck with all the other paddling/fishing gear with the exception of the trolling motor which slide under the toolbox and out of the way quite nicely. The packed size is about 30"x38"x12", so it sits nice and low. It can be folded differently to be 20"x38"x18".

In the future, I plan to build a light box for it to stow it behind the Andersen Hitch, or maybe in a cargo box on the rear of the trailer if I mount my bikes on the pin box. I will not make the final desicion until after I have my trailer at hand, and figure lots of things out.
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Interesting boat. How rigid are the sides? Does not look like there are any thwarts to stiffen it. Do you think that if you are sideways in a rapid that waves may want to collapse the sides of your canoe without the thwarts?
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Interesting boat. How rigid are the sides? Does not look like there are any thwarts to stiffen it. Do you think that if you are sideways in a rapid that waves may want to collapse the sides of your canoe without the thwarts?
Dave, I never realized just how stiff that 10 psi would make the sides, but they are extremely firm. You can push out on the sides, maybe a couple inches, if you push out hard. Collapsing in is really not an issue, as the seat backs make that firm. If you watch videos of the canoe in white water, you will see that there is very little flex. Personally, I would not worry at all about collapse in rapids, though have yet to give it a go. Maybe a late year trip on the North Saskatchewan is in order.

I am not sure how much pressure inflatables usually use, but you do see rafts bending a bunch, but at 10 psi this canoe is rock solid. Like I mentioned earlier, you can jump up and down on the bottom when on land, and if feels very solid.

They use the same drop-stitch technology to make their inflatable SUPs, which need to be very rigid.
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...Maybe a late year trip on the North Saskatchewan is in order. ...
I am paddling the N. Sask. River from the Forestry Trunk Road at Nordegg to Rocky Mountain House on the Labour Day Weekend. Maybe we will see you on the river?
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I am paddling the N. Sask. River from the Forestry Trunk Road at Nordegg to Rocky Mountain House on the Labour Day Weekend. Maybe we will see you on the river?
Unfortunately we have a camping trip planned for that weekend, but the next one might work. We'll see though. That is the section we usually do, and did last May long, my first ever river solo trip, which went well, even through the bigger bumps along the way.
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Unfortunately we have a camping trip planned for that weekend, but the next one might work. We'll see though. That is the section we usually do, and did last May long, my first ever river solo trip, which went well, even through the bigger bumps along the way.
I am paddling solo on the labour day weekend also, in a 13ft Caption. It's terribly slow on flat water, spins like a top when the wind comes up, and is very uncomfortable kneeling for 130km with your butt on a pedestal seat. But it is really fun paddling through all of the rapids. I will likely swap out a foam pedestal seat for a more conventional webbed canoe seat just for this trip. My knees and ankles would be very grateful.

We are paddling Horberg to Rocky Mountain House this Saturday also, just as a warm up daytrip. Water levels have been really high this week so am not quite sure what to expect. Guess we'll see.


Sorry for the thread drift. I really like the compactness of your new canoe and the ability to pack it in a small box when not being used. That really solves the dilemma of what to do with a canoe when towing a 5th wheel.
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