Inverter Question - Escape Trailer Owners Community

Go Back   Escape Trailer Owners Community > Escape Tech > Problem Solving | Owners helping each other
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 08-11-2019, 03:50 PM   #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA
Posts: 13
Inverter Question

Hello, we are are new to this forum and we would like to say hi to everyone. We are getting a 5.0 TA -completion date Dec 2019. We are still in the process of completing our build Sheet. We have a question about the Inverter. What appliances and tools that you use to plug in the AC inverter? Do you really need an Inverter? (We are planning to use the RV three months in winter down south in a warmer climate and in Summer and warmer weather in BC and Canada. Also we are planning to stay in it for a year park in our property- plugged in- while we build our retirement house.)
Thanks,
Brian and Maria
__________________

vivid blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2019, 03:54 PM   #2
Site Team
 
cpaharley2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chilliwack, British Columbia
Trailer: Escape#4, 2019 Escape21 DejaView pulled by 2014 Ram Hemi/8sp
Posts: 19,465
If you will be plugged in you do not need an inverter. An inverter allows use of some items like a microwave or electric pot while not hooked up to electric. Again, not needed if you will be plugged in at a campsite or at home.
__________________

__________________
Jim
It is not the years in your life but the life in your years Lincoln
cpaharley2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2019, 04:03 PM   #3
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA
Posts: 13
Do you need it for the TV?
vivid blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2019, 04:09 PM   #4
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA
Posts: 13
Probably my question should be-- What appliances and devices that you are using now that are plugged in to your inverter? Cell phone? Laptop? TV? etc?
Thanks again,
B&M
vivid blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2019, 04:10 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Kent, Ohio
Trailer: 2017 21
Posts: 107
No unless your boondocking
oldwave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2019, 04:10 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Strongsville, Ohio
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
Posts: 104
The general answer is that if it has a 120volt plug...like you use in the house for a lamp, or coffee pot...curling iron...then you need an inverter. It changes the 12volt DC of your battery in to the 120 volts like your home or office uses.

The harder part is how large of an inverter, and that is dependent on what you want to operate. Running the hair dryer for example requires a larger inverter than charging my electric shaver.

Glenn
SeldomSeen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2019, 04:32 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Vermilye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 3,448
As others have mentioned, an inverter takes 12V from your batteries & makes 120v AC. If you never camp without a power pedestal, there is no need for one. On the other hand, if you dry camp, it is handy to power those devices that don't run on 12V. A microwave, coffee pot, toaster, some TVs, recharging computers, camera batteries & cell phones, etc. Many of those devices (with the exception of the microwave) can be powered or charged from 12V without an inverter.

If you do get an inverter, the one supplied by Escape will provide up to 1500 watts. You need the dual batteries to power it because to make 120V, the inverter draws over 10X the amperage of the device you are powering. This can drag down your batteries quickly. You need a method of putting back into the batteries what ever you take out. It could be with your converter at a site with hookups a day or two later, or solar.

In any case, high current devices such as hair dryers, microwaves, etc will quickly deplete your batteries, and should only be used for a short time (a few minutes). Medium amperage devices such as a coffee pot, toaster, etc can be used for longer periods, however either could use a tenth or more of your battery capacity each day. Low power devices such as camera, laptop & cell phone battery charging will not cause much in the way of battery depletion. All inverters waste some power, even when not in use (if left on).
__________________
Jon Vermilye My Travel Blog
Travel and Photo Web Page ... My Collection of RV Blogs 2018 F150 3.5EB, 2017 21
Vermilye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2019, 04:40 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
davidmurphy02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA "Junior", 2019 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi
Posts: 675
Ditto what others have said, depends a lot on your camping style. We find that the inverter is a nice luxury - we don't use it often, but when we do it's sure nice to have. Pulling over at a rest stop for lunch and being able to run the microwave briefly is a luxury we really appreciate after not having that capability in our old trailer.

There aren't many other 120 volt appliances we use - we have a 12 volt TV and 12 volt fan, it's much more efficient to have those things run directly off the batteries rather than fire up the big inverter and have it running for two hours to watch a movie. If you use things like a 120 volt coffee grinder, mixer, blender etc. the inverter allows you to have the use of them when you don't have shore power.

Bottom line - you can make frozen margaritas in your blender when you're boondocking
__________________
David, Mary, and 3 Cats
davidmurphy02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2019, 05:20 PM   #9
Site Team
 
cpaharley2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chilliwack, British Columbia
Trailer: Escape#4, 2019 Escape21 DejaView pulled by 2014 Ram Hemi/8sp
Posts: 19,465
Most charging is done via USB now a days and there are several in your Escape already, they are 12v just like in your car. You can buy a 12v tv, that is what I have done for my last 4 Escapes....
__________________
Jim
It is not the years in your life but the life in your years Lincoln
cpaharley2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2019, 06:08 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
John in Santa Cruz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 1,490
i have a few things that need 120V to charge, and a portable 200 watt inverter I use for these. I installed a couple 'powerpole' 12V outlets near the dinette so thats where i plug the inverter in. we hardly ever use our microwave, even at home, and our Escape has a propane oven which gets used a LOT.
__________________
2014 Escape 21 (home away from home)
2002 Ford F250 7.3 Diesel 4x4 (tug)
1993 Mercedes 300CE Cabriolet (daily driver)
2006 Yellow Lab (Maggie... RIP Feb 2019 )
John in Santa Cruz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2019, 09:09 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Signal Mountain (Chattanooga), Tennessee
Trailer: Escape 21 November 2014; 2016 Ram Eco-diesel 4WD Crew
Posts: 477
We are in the pro-inverter camp, since we travel great distances, about 80,000 miles so far with the trailer. We often do not have 120 volt electricity to plug into.

We enjoy the freedom to run the microwave whenever we stop to warm up lunch or leftovers. I understand we could make do just fine with the stove top, but we just like the microwave for coffee, tea, or heating things.

You can find a television that will run on 12volt, but we like the regular Samsung that more or less requires the 120 volt. It's possible to use a small hand held inverter that supplies enough 120 volt power that would probably run the TV, and we have used one sometimes, so that's an option. My wife's hair appliance (Chi?) uses about 70 watts of AC power, so that can easily be used, too.

If you're getting the solar, I'd say get the inverter. If you're getting the inverter, get the solar. We also got the two 6 volt batteries that have held up well.

One thing leads to another, so it's possible to go simple, or get it all.
Bill and Earline is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2019, 09:16 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
rubicon327's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 3,250
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill and Earline View Post
If you're getting the solar, I'd say get the inverter. If you're getting the inverter, get the solar. We also got the two 6 volt batteries that have held up well.
I don’t think it was always the case but if you get either the solar or the inverter (or both) it requires the dual 6V batteries.
__________________

__________________
“One way to get the most out of life is to look upon it as an adventure.”― W.F.
rubicon327 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off






» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Escape Trailer Industries or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.
×