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Old 04-03-2015, 09:10 PM   #41
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See post #33
Suggested cause is placement.
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:14 PM   #42
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Suggested cause is placement.
Placement may be the cause to some degree, but it's obviously prone to warping. So I will contact them and see if they could either use the small round ones or not use them at all.
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:15 PM   #43
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I would give Reace a call as he is very accommodating on most things and I'm sure he still has the round small ones.

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It was the long running lights. All 3 lights had the thickness of a pocket knife gap between the camper and the light fixture.
Just a reminder for those of us just getting ready for the camping season, check the sealant on the upper rear lights for splitting. My just under 1 year old trailer has the issue. Tammy tells me they use Proflex on the uppers of the lights and windows.
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Old 01-22-2016, 03:13 PM   #45
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Thank you to all that pointed out and commented on this issue. I have been plagued by a mysterious leak in our 2015 21' Escape trailer whenever it rains and it was driving me crazy - way too much water for it to be a condensation issue, but I couldn't find any problems in the general location of the leak. I didn't think to check those upper running lights, but sure enough, large gaps exist in all 3. I have emailed Escape Trailers, but no response so far. I am in a quandary over how to proceed. Folks have recommended Proflex, but I see on the tech data for proflex that this product is not compatible with some types of plastics and I'm not sure what kind of plastic is used on my running lights. At least the mystery leak is no longer a mystery, and that is good progress for sure.
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Old 01-22-2016, 03:31 PM   #46
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Folks have recommended Proflex, but I see on the tech data for proflex that this product is not compatible with some types of plastics and I'm not sure what kind of plastic is used on my running lights. At least the mystery leak is no longer a mystery, and that is good progress for sure.
Sikaflex 221 has also been recommended. That's what I'm going to use. Here's the datasheet.
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Old 01-22-2016, 04:06 PM   #47
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Thank you to all that pointed out and commented on this issue. I have been plagued by a mysterious leak in our 2015 21' Escape trailer whenever it rains and it was driving me crazy - way too much water for it to be a condensation issue, but I couldn't find any problems in the general location of the leak. I didn't think to check those upper running lights, but sure enough, large gaps exist in all 3. I have emailed Escape Trailers, but no response so far. I am in a quandary over how to proceed. Folks have recommended Proflex, but I see on the tech data for proflex that this product is not compatible with some types of plastics and I'm not sure what kind of plastic is used on my running lights. At least the mystery leak is no longer a mystery, and that is good progress for sure.
Hi: windblade... I used ProFlex as it will stick to itself. The plastic lens' warp in the sun and require a thick band of ProFlex to seal them the second time. Alf
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Having replaced two lights now I can attest to several issues regarding upper lights:

One, I firmly believe in the Proflex as I have previously stated, it is what ETI uses, AND it is one of the few caulks that adheres to itself, thus eliminating the removal of old caulk. It does need to be cleaned with alcohol and I mask off the light before reapplying so I get a smooth line.

Two, after replacing one light and having an even bigger failure of that light, I discovered that the bottom lights are not totally enclosed with caulk (at least on mine) . They have a "weep" area that is not covered with caulk and I have never had a problem with the lower lights. When I fixed my second light I sealed it well all the way around. I now believe this was a mistake as it failed also. The small gap in the bottom caulk allows for some air expansion AND if water does get in the top, it has a place to go, rather than filling up behind the light and finding its way into the wiring hole leading to water on the inside of the trailer. My problems have always been with the right side light and I discovered that there was a small gap in the caulk on the left light (I don't know if it was intentional) which I now think may account for why it has NOT failed.

Just my recommendations based on having replaced my light twice now.
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Old 01-22-2016, 04:36 PM   #49
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I'm interested to hear more about Donna's Sikaflex 221. I looked up some info on it and comparisons with Geocel Proflex RV and thought Sikaflex may be quite a bit better. If so, why do all the local RV stores suggest Proflex, as did the RV repair shop where I got my Nash fixed when it leaked. Here is a link that compares some of the spec's.
RV Product Comparison - When you want the seal to last
It lists 2 Geocel Proflex products, with quite different shrink rates. The Proflex is supposed to have a 36% shrink rate vs Sikflex's 5% shrink rate. This link didn't compare other important parameters like adhesion, elongation, etc. Has anyone else found good data on this?
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Old 01-22-2016, 05:29 PM   #50
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Researching on the Internet I came across a product called "Boat Life Lifeseal". It is intended for attaching plastic lights, etc. to fiberglass boats. It is a hybrid silicone/polyurethane product developed for exactly this purpose. Boat owners found pure polyurethane to have too strong a bond impacting future removeability and found pure silicone to not have sufficient adhesion properties. And some of the elastomeric formulations were eating into the plastic. Seems promising, but it is expensive at $21 US per cartridge, available on Amazon. Do not confuse with their Lifecaulk product, which is an entirely different formulation.
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