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Old 10-02-2015, 11:44 PM   #31
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Whoa! A 2012 trailer is three years old and the manual recommends inspecting the sealant yearly.
Stuff happens, especially to things that move and flex.
I don't see how this issue can be attributed to build quality.
And, my wife says I'm crabby tonight.
Whether you see how this issue can be attributed to build quality, or not, it not a reason to jump down someone's throat. As you can see, even people who have complaints love their trailer. And whether you want to admit it or not, there have been alot of minor quality control issues cropping up on the newer trailers, ie. sagging headliners, untightened pipes, uncaulked screws, loose nails, excessive dust left behind, etc. These are minor issues and don't mean that the build quality is poor, but they do suggest that last minute loose ends are not being tied up and final inspections are being rushed. These kinds of things would have been caught in the old days.

And, please tell your wife she's right.
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Old 10-02-2015, 11:54 PM   #32
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And whether you want to admit it or not, there have been alot of minor quality control issues cropping up on the newer trailers
And, if you wish, you can start a thread on that subject. All I have been saying is the issue of a leak due to worn or missing sealant is a maintenance issue, not a quality-control issue.
I haven't bought a trailer since 2008, nor do I plan to, so I have no comment.
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Old 10-03-2015, 03:36 AM   #33
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Wow! What did I miss here? Sorry, went to see Ringo- Peace & Love, man is he great!!
And- he's 75; talk about standing the test of time!!!
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Old 10-03-2015, 08:00 AM   #34
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wow. you guys sure like to talk! a little tiny dab of caulking missed on a screw head is all she wrote.

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Old 10-03-2015, 09:51 AM   #35
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If liking Escape trailers, the company and the people, including and despite the issues faced and dealt with, plus enjoying having met 100's of owners, labels one with the derogatory term of "fanboy", then I guess that is what I am.

Stuff happens! It has happened to me with my 19, both minor and major. I dealt with it myself and moved on without whining and complaining. I could make a list of dozens of these items. These issues that arise need not be looked at negatively, but instead can be a source of learning, and educating for others, including Escape.

I don't discount any single issue or problem that people have with their Escape trailer, it is more an issue with being negative about these issues, rather than being constructive.

I have not spent any time there, but I bet the Scamp and Casita forums will have at least as many reported issues there too, maybe more. Look at the issues with the Parkliner and their production issues, yet there are still many fans.

Steve did right by mentioning his issue. Something that would be a bit frustrating for sure, but something he figured out what the issue is, came looking for a cure, and found it. This will help prompt others to check these kind of maintenance things and prevent the possibility of them of happening to others, as well as learning of a product to use for repair.

If people want a moulded fibreglass trailer, and want better features with it, there are options. Firstly, you could do the upgrades yourself, and get what you really want. I plan to do lots of it on my upcoming 5.0 build. Another option is to purchase a trailer with these upgraded features built in, like the Nest Caravan , or the Oliver. Of course you need to compare costs too, with their starting prices being near double that of an equivalent sized Escape (taking into account current exchange rates).

I am in no way saying that Escape has a perfect product, BUT they do make huge efforts to improve things while trying to meet the demand. It is easy to sit back at our computers and criticize, but in reality it takes a lot of effort to make these design and production issues, something I know for a fact they are spending a lot of time right now addressing. There is a reason for their huge backlog in production......They produce a product that folks do find good value in.

Anyway, my post is not intended as a "flame" in any way, just how I, myself, like to look at things. I always strive to stay positive, and stress free, something that has worked good for me over the years, and something I hope to do until the end of my days.

Cheers!
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Old 10-03-2015, 10:47 AM   #36
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As far as a Escape fan club issue, or the perceived good ole boys club, I think it comes from those who do not participate as much as others, perhaps. Senior member status to your name has nothing to do with age, but participation. In addition attending rallies and meeting other owners help place a face with a name. I believe camaraderie perhaps is a better word and it exists here and out on the road. I have had members attending a rally seek to meet me and express appreciation for some help. I believe we all want to help one another here, but just go about it differently.
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Old 10-03-2015, 10:58 AM   #37
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ETI arbitrarily changed my Build Date sign off and silently dropped the shared delivery cost option.
I am a fan of ETI, but I have to agree about changing the build date sign off. That happened to me too... received a new build sheet with a build date a month sooner, with no explanation whatsoever. I had to contact them to find out what was going on. I assumed that our trailer had moved up a month in the production schedule, but that wasn't it. ETI has changed the lead time for build sheet sign off to 2 months instead of 1.

Affected customers really should have been given a heads up on this rather than receiving a build sheet with a different date with no explanation.
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Old 10-03-2015, 11:02 AM   #38
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Reace sent me ProflexRV by Geocel for different issue. It says on it for use on roofs.
I used proflex to seal a leak where a wire enters trailer. It works well and is very sticky.
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Old 10-03-2015, 12:12 PM   #39
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I am a fan of ETI, but I have to agree about changing the build date sign off. That happened to me too... received a new build sheet with a build date a month sooner, with no explanation whatsoever. I had to contact them to find out what was going on. I assumed that our trailer had moved up a month in the production schedule, but that wasn't it. ETI has changed the lead time for build sheet sign off to 2 months instead of 1.

Affected customers really should have been given a heads up on this rather than receiving a build sheet with a different date with no explanation.
In fairness I was advised by e-mail that it was being done to stagger build dates rather than have them coming due all at once. I can accept that reasoning but would have preferred that it not be done after I already had a date I was working toward. Perhaps after I get my trailer, it's systems are purring along and the purchase fades from my memory I will become a fan.
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