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Old 10-14-2015, 08:54 PM   #31
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I think it is making more sense now. So Leon has the LED light fixtures that are installed by ETI which sound very different from standard RV light fixtures that you will have if ETI doesn't do LED's. Since I like the ability to get my own standard wedge LED bulbs, select the lumens, temperature level, and not have fit issues sounds like it was good not to have chosen that option.
I remember on my very first Scamp 13 over 10 years ago, I put LED's in before it was popular to do it. The bulbs cost a fortune, and all you could get was "super bright." They were like interrogation lights and gave off a blue cast. When you went for a walk at night the Scamp looked like a glowing blue alien ship that had landed in the campground. Wifey was not happy with those lights.
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Old 10-14-2015, 09:58 PM   #32
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Leon,
I have the same issue with flickering during pump use. Like you, I have the Escape installed fixtures and LED bulbs. Not sure that makes any difference. I do not think we have any other draw, such as your laptop, when our flickering occurs. I do not find it annoying as I understand the relationship of pump = flickering, but it is noticeable.

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I took a recommendation from the forum, perhaps it came from you, and installed parchment paper on the inside of the lens of one of those too bright double ceiling fixtures. It is a very easy fix, it does make a difference in diffusing the light but I have not used the dimmed fixture at night as yet, that will be the test.
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Paul, that may have been Sylvia who recommended parchment paper. Or Charlie.
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Old 10-15-2015, 12:50 PM   #34
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Thanks Jim;I just ordered 1 cool white[194] & 1 off white[160]illumination.For a total of 33.10 bulbs are 9.95 ea.duty,shipping & can. $ makes up difference.Will let you no which does the best job.
As I said ,I would get back to you.The lights arrived,much ,much better than theETI installed orginal.I went with the cool white.One caveat is,i had to modify the lense cover.I just cut a small knotch,with a dremel.Finally i'll be able to see what's cooking..
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This information does not apply to any Escape that came equipped with LED lights.

The bulbs that replace incandescents, for at least many Escapes that came with incandescents, are #921. I put them in the pancake fixtures and the stove and they fit both.

This is a photo of a 921 LED (24-3528) on the left and an incandescent on the right.
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921 left, incandescent right

The whole description for this LED is:
GRV T10 921 194 24-3528 SMD LED
Superbright DC 12V
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With covers on, marked difference

Photos taken in the daytime so will have to see the difference at night.


If your Escape came equipped with LEDs, you cannot use these bulbs. You have very different fixtures and bulbs. These are only replacements for Escapes that came built with incandescents and can't say for sure that it applies to all.
Probably does not.
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Thank you for the pics Cathy. Those are exactly the 921 bulbs I linked to earlier except those look like white color temp and the warm white LEDs will be the color of the incandescent on the right. I'm confident I can order a 10 pack now. Thanks again....
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Thank you for the pics Cathy. Those are exactly the 921 bulbs I linked to earlier except those look like white color temp and the warm white LEDs will be the color of the incandescent on the right. I'm confident I can order a 10 pack now. Thanks again....
That is interesting to know. I bought these in a pack of six for $18 and also bought much bigger brighter ones that I am showing here. My husband thinks he would like the ones you refer to, so I will look for those. The prices certainly seem far better than they used to be but I don't know what you paid.

Can't really tell until we use them at night as to what we like.

A 24-5050 is on the right and they cost about three times as much.
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Old 10-17-2015, 11:01 PM   #40
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For anyone trying to plan ahead: we did not order the all over LED upgrade, but our 21 (build date 9/14/15) has it anyway. Our thinking for not getting it was precisely what y'all are talking about: the upgrade was spendy and we thought we'd get by with changing out a few of the incandescents for LED. That way we'd have the best of both worlds, since there are LEDs that work in incandescent fixures but not vice versa.

Don't get me wrong, we're happy with the all over LEDs. I'm just mentioning it because if your now-being-built trailer turns out like our last-month-built trailer, you won't want to order a bunch of the #921 bulbs before you pick up your Escape.

Although, of course, as always: YMMV.
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