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Old 01-19-2015, 11:31 PM   #11
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A tapered, round, socket can be got! So can vice grips. A dedicated thief would come prepared.
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Old 01-19-2015, 11:36 PM   #12
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I found with the RAV4's fancy 18 inch rims, that if you hit the curb a couple times, it deters thieves.
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Old 01-19-2015, 11:37 PM   #13
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A tapered, round, socket can be got! So can vice grips. A dedicated thief would come prepared.
Right, there are tools designed to clamp on to the round surface, but they take a lot of clamping force to stay in place or the tool will just spin. Locking lug nuts are a very effective theft deterrent. I worked as a cop from 1985 to about 2000. In those 15 years I took alot of theft reports for stolen wheels -- but not one for stolen wheels with locking lugs. Can they be defeated? Of course. But, the vast majority of thieves would just move on to an easier target.
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Not just a location issue, but a personal choice too. I could not be bothered to use locking lug nuts. Too many other things to stress my limited number of brain cells on.
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Old 01-20-2015, 12:38 AM   #15
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Nope. The photo is from Patriot GMC in Bartlesville Oklahoma. Thieves got away with the wheels of 76 vehicles in all. Definitely not amateurs.

76 wheels stolen from vehicles at Bartlesville dealership - Tulsa World: Bartlesville News
"Only" 19 vehicles = 76 wheels. But I get the point: it's a theft!

Bizarre - why bother with the blocks? I suppose there's no jacking point that stays high enough to get the jack back out when the truck is dropped on the ground without wheels, since these trucks don't have much ground clearance. The detail photos show a tire under the truck - more strangeness, making me wonder even more about these thieves.

Anyway, interesting, but did they pass up the wheels with security nuts, or did they bring a suitable tool? Of course, if they planned it well they would hit only vehicles for which pre-delivery prep had not been done, and the security nuts not yet installed? Either way, it's still a question of balancing risk against convenience.


So, what't the ideal security level? If security nuts are needed on the wheels which are on the axle, then if the spare is also an alloy it will need one as well. And why stop at one? If other wheels have only one security nut, wouldn't thieves pass by wheels with two or more security nuts each? Those wheels are $85 each plus the tire, and the propane tanks are worth that together, so I guess the tanks need a lock. How about the battery... ? To be fair, the wheels are perhaps the most obvious target, and easy to sell, so the first to protect.
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Bizarre - why bother with the blocks?
Put the blocks firmly under the vehicle, let the air out of the tires, and pull the wheels. No jacking required.
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Put the blocks firmly under the vehicle, let the air out of the tires, and pull the wheels. No jacking required.
Now how would you know that!?!?!?
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Now how would you know that!?!?!?
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Put the blocks firmly under the vehicle, let the air out of the tires, and pull the wheels. No jacking required.
Good thinking - of course that could work with just the right size blocks or if the tire sidewalls are tall enough.. and if you get the blocks under the outboard end of the suspension, not under the frame. On the other hand, the detailed photos in this case show the block under the brake disk, so it could not have been placed until after the wheel was removed...

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I'm gonna take the wheels off my RAV and bring them in the house at night.
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