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10-29-2015, 04:45 PM
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Also, never use duct ( duck ) tape on actual ducts. A proper duct tape is thin aluminum, not fabric ( which is where the name 'duck' comes from ).
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When I was in my 20's worked for a furnace cleaning company and the vast majority of heating ducts had duck tape instead of the proper thin aluminum duct tape.
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10-29-2015, 04:59 PM
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First pic is 'gaffer' tape. I have strips on my MacBook Air to keep me from dropping it. The piece in the photo has been there for several weeks. I just pressed it back down after taking the pic.
Second pic is 'duct' tape.
Duck tape, also known as 'duct tape' is that stuff that crumbles after time and leaves a gummy residue. It loves to stick to itself.
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10-29-2015, 05:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
First pic is 'gaffer' tape. I have strips on my MacBook Air to keep me from dropping it. The piece in the photo has been there for several weeks. I just pressed it back down after taking the pic.
Second pic is 'duct' tape.
Duck tape, also known as 'duct tape' is that stuff that crumbles after time and leaves a gummy residue. It loves to stick to itself.
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I think you have your terminology mixed up. That stuff in your second photo looks like Aluminum Foil Tape. We use lots of that stuff on jobs.
The Gaffers Tape is just that.
Duct Tape (often miscalled Duck Tape, with a brand now even using that name) is the fibrous cloth tape used for so many things these days. It was originally used, and is still often used, for taping ducts, BUT should never be used on ducts with any heat to the air. Either way, I do prefer to use the Aluminum Foil Tape in most applications, as it is superior hot or cold.
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10-29-2015, 05:33 PM
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But it is a duct.
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10-29-2015, 05:40 PM
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The aluminum foil tape is duct tape.
Which is why the furnace company used it on my ducts.
During World War II, Revolite (then a division of Johnson & Johnson) developed an adhesive tape made from a rubber-based adhesive applied to a durable duck cloth backing. This tape resisted water and was used as sealing tape on some ammunition cases during that period.[1]
So, Jim, I think you have your terminology reversed.
But if you read Wiki, you can select your evidence for either side.
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10-29-2015, 05:56 PM
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We use the aluminum foil tape to cover the furnace vent in winter with a note on the furnace to remove it. Maybe we should use the fabric type instead.
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10-29-2015, 05:59 PM
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Maybe we should use the fabric type instead.
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Only if you want gummy crud on your vent.
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10-29-2015, 07:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
The aluminum foil tape is duct tape.
Which is why the furnace company used it on my ducts.
During World War II, Revolite (then a division of Johnson & Johnson) developed an adhesive tape made from a rubber-based adhesive applied to a durable duck cloth backing. This tape resisted water and was used as sealing tape on some ammunition cases during that period.[1]
So, Jim, I think you have your terminology reversed.
But if you read Wiki, you can select your evidence for either side.
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Aluminun foil tape is used for sealing ducts, but this is far from its only use. We used it on electrical cables where we needed shielding for communication wires when the cables did not have a shield of their own. It is used as a sealant in many things in construction and industry, other than sealing ducts.
Duck Tape is a brand name, and even they call themselves a form of Duct Tape. See the first line in the description from their page.
Duct Tape Products | Duck® Brand
I have seen this debate many a time on construction forums. Your research of the beginnings of Duck/Duct Tape is correct. However, it's use grew and evolved into a commercial product (no longer just for the army) mostly in the heating industry sealing ducts. Thus when sold and promoted, it was sold as duct tape. But, we almost never use it for that any more.
I rarely refer to Wiki any more, as it seems like much of it is written by folks with their own agenda, rather than sticking purely to the facts.
If I used Scotch Tape to tape a duct, would it be duct tape too?
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10-29-2015, 07:02 PM
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As I said, if you read the Wiki entry on duck tape, you can find support for any position you want to take.
And, a kayak is a canoe.
Canoe isn't always a kayak.
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10-29-2015, 07:13 PM
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B&H Photo is a source of gaffer tape. This screen capture from US site.
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10-29-2015, 07:17 PM
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All I know is not all Duck tape (duct tape) is created equal. Use the cheap THIT, leave it on too long if it's hot and the glue isn't sticky, it turns to concrete! The only thing left to do is chip the glue off. Ask me how I know.
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10-29-2015, 07:20 PM
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And, a kayak is a canoe.
Canoe isn't always a kayak.
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Retirement gives you lots of time to dip into the sauce, eh?
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10-29-2015, 07:36 PM
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All in moderation.
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10-29-2015, 09:21 PM
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Retirement gives you lots of time to dip into the sauce, eh?
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Hi: Jim Bennett... Can you fix a canoe with duck tape? Alf
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10-29-2015, 09:23 PM
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Hi: Jim Bennett... Can you fix a canoe with duck tape? Alf
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Yes, yes you can. I have had to do just that a couple times now.
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10-29-2015, 09:34 PM
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But, not if it's wet, especially under water.
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10-29-2015, 10:18 PM
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[QUOTE=gbaglo;116442
The aluminum foil tape is duct tape.
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So I'm confused. I've been using this duct tape for auto bodywork thinking it's aluminum foil tape?
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10-29-2015, 10:20 PM
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Read the label. It's Autobody Repair Tape.
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10-30-2015, 10:28 AM
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Quote:
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B&H Photo is a source of gaffer tape. This screen capture from US site.
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I see now that Lee Valley (as a wood worker a favourite shopping place of mine) also markets Gaffer's Tape. I think I'll give it a try.
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10-30-2015, 10:34 AM
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Thirty bucks for a roll of tape?
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