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05-03-2013, 05:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jubal
The lug nuts are a 13/16”.
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There I go, trying to think without the facts again.
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Originally Posted by Dixhiccup
Thanks guys. Jim many years ago I remember my sister laughing at someone changing a wheel in a downpour. My Father was furious with her. We went about 1/2 a mile and then sat watching father cursing and swearing as he got soaked changing a front wheel! Moral, "never say never"
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Yeah, maybe I shouldn't have said anything. I might have jinxed myself.
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05-03-2013, 08:04 PM
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Jim, why not under the axle?
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05-05-2013, 09:10 AM
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You should never put the jack directly under the axle itself, as it is a torsion axle, and you could do damage to it.
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05-05-2013, 10:59 AM
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On torsion axles, most of the tube is hollow. You may crush it trying to lift more than a ton at that point. If you lift closer to the tire, you could crush the rubber inside the axle. Not worth the risk IMHO.
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05-11-2013, 05:09 PM
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There are very few mechanical components in a trailer, and those come from traditional U.S. suppliers (such as Dexter) and so generally use inch-sized nuts and bolts.
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Originally Posted by Donna D.
On torsion axles, most of the tube is hollow. You may crush it trying to lift more than a ton at that point. If you lift closer to the tire, you could crush the rubber inside the axle. Not worth the risk IMHO.
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On almost all square and round axles, the axle beam is a hollow tube; in many cases it is perfectly suitable for jacking on, at least in appropriate places. In the "rubber torsion" design the tube is really a structural crossmember, not actually an axle; it is not intended to carry loads very far from the frame mounting brackets, so the wall thickness might not be enough and the general advice is to not jack on it.
I really don't think you could crush a Torflex tube with a jack and the trailer's weight, or do anything to the rubber in it, but you might bend the tube, messing up wheel alignment.
I agree with Donna that it is generally not worth the risk - jack on the frame.
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05-11-2013, 05:13 PM
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I jacked my tent trailer on the axle, and stopped when I could see that the axle was rising, but the trailer wasn't. Luckily, I stopped before I bent it too much.
So, I wouldn't say you might be able to jack on the axle, because when you discover you shouldn't have, it will likely be too late.
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05-11-2013, 05:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
I jacked my tent trailer on the axle, and stopped when I could see that the axle was rising, but the trailer wasn't. Luckily, I stopped before I bent it too much.
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You're not blessed in the do-it-yourself area, are you Glenn?
Let me guess - you placed a jack right in the middle of the axle tube, centreline of the trailer, and lifted the entire trailer weight from there, right? That's far more bending stress on the axle than it would have while supporting the trailer weight on the wheels, and why the location is important.
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05-11-2013, 05:57 PM
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Clairvoyant?
Precisely.
baglo
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05-11-2013, 07:45 PM
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All I can say is that Dexter says do not jack OR support on the axle whether it is a torsion bar or spring. If you look at their manual this is stated in red and capitalized multiple times. Always best to do what the manufacturer says even if you don't understand why.
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05-21-2013, 09:24 PM
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For my fellow novices:
► 2:46
Seeing is understanding.
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