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Old 08-22-2015, 01:51 PM   #1
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Outland Firebowl deluxe - quick connect

I saw Outland Firebowl Deluxe at Canadian Tire on sale yesterday and almost bought it on impulse given all the fire bans. They wanted100.oo.

But will it work on the quick connect or will I have problems with the regulator?

It seems to be getting decent reviews Outland Firebowl Deluxe | Walmart.ca

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I saw Outland Firebowl Deluxe at Canadian Tire on sale yesterday and almost bought it on impulse given all the fire bans. They wanted100.oo.

But will it work on the quick connect or will I have problems with the regulator?

It seems to be getting decent reviews Outland Firebowl Deluxe | Walmart.ca

Larry
I have been using mine with the Escape quick connect for 2-1/2 years with no problems. Just detached the supplied regulator from the firebowl and added a long propane line with quick connect fittings.
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Looks like I have to do a bit more reading

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I'm guessing I'll have to do some modifying but I don't like playing with propane equipment
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Thanks Dave maybe I'll risk doing it myself

Would the quick connect hose I got from ETI attach to the bowl once I take off the regulator?
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I'm doing some searches for quick connect. FYI. be sure to use propane quick connect

Quick connect by itself is an altogether different thing
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Larry, the reason it works for Dave is that he took off the low pressure regulator on the firebowl and connected it to the quick connect line coming from the trailer. That line is already low pressure, because of the regulator at the tanks. If you had both regulators in the line, the flame would be too low, or not light properly at all. The only issue doing it that way is in regulating the flame height without a regulator at the bowl. I'd probably rig up a line at the tanks that bypasses the tank regulator and supplies the propane at high pressure, and then leave the low pressure regulator on the bowl.
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Thanks, I think I'm figuring this out. I like the idea of simplicity gfor sure I don't want to haul around another propane tank).

If I stay with the quick connect hose off the trailer. I need to get adaptor pieces as wall as some kind of off/on switch at the bowl.

If I go to the propane tanks on the trailer is have to play with the set up ETI installed. I like the little switch moving from an empty tanker the full tank. But the upside would be not needing to mess with the bowl regulator (and the bowl's on/off flow).

I'm a bit leary of messing around with the propane tanks on the trailer.
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The nice thing about the fire bowl is that it comes with separate regulators and flame control valve. So when you take off the regulator and replace with a propane hose with quick connects (to be attached to your Escapes exterior quick connect propane fitting), you still have the flame control valve in place to control your fire size.
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If I stay with the quick connect hose off the trailer. I need to get adaptor pieces as wall as some kind of off/on switch at the bowl.
Based on the manufacturer's video page, the regulator that you would eliminate is on the tank end of the hose, so you would leave the control (mounted directly on the firebowl) alone, so you would still have on-off control there. The low-pressure quick-connect fitting normally has a shutoff valve built into it as well.

The conversion would look just like the first part of what I did with my Porta Chef grill, but instead of adding stuff to the original hose like I did, you would just buy a long ready-made quick-connect hose and use it.

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If I go to the propane tanks on the trailer is have to play with the set up ETI installed. I like the little switch moving from an empty tanker the full tank. But the upside would be not needing to mess with the bowl regulator (and the bowl's on/off flow).

I'm a bit leary of messing around with the propane tanks on the trailer.
If you don't mind not having that auto-changeover feature for the firebowl, you just install a ready-made tee fitting between one of the tanks and the hose. This means no tools, no changing anything Escape put together, and no more messing with the tanks than you do to remove a tank for filling and replace it. The trailer is not affected by adding the tee (it still switches between tanks, for instance).
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Please keep in mind when converting any appliance to work with the trailers low pressure system you must use low pressure fittings. LP and HP QD fittings look the same, but internally they are not compatible. The HP male fitting has a tiny oriface, the LP does not. And always use Teflon tape or pipe compound when making connections, unless the connection is a flare fitting.
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