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Old 06-10-2018, 01:25 PM   #21
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Got a reply back, they said they were good for 12v wiring. So I did not get an answer if they were good for more than 12v. If it happens again I guess I'll see what other lights are out there.
Or open up a Rave or Disco joint
Hope it doesnít happen again but I donít have much faith in cheap LEDís. You might be better off replacing the whole light with an incandescent style and then buying your own replacement LED bulbs from superbrightleds.com or the like. We have the old style lights and put in our own LEDís without issue. Just food for thought.

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Old 06-10-2018, 02:13 PM   #22
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yeah, most any 12V device designed for automotive use will in fact handle like 11 to 16V or whatever. cars typically are 13.5-14.4V when running, and 12-13V when shut off, and a low battery can be as low as 11V
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Old 06-10-2018, 02:19 PM   #23
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Products designed for use on a 12V system, will also handle the charge voltages these systems see, and are usually fine for up to 12V and beyond. At least most certainly do.

Yes but these were designed by a group in China for the RV industry. Whether they know anything at all about it is unknown. They saw a place they could fit in and sell devices and went for it. Since more than a few of these are failing with a disco lighting effect it sounds like they did not do something right. So if or when these fail I'll find something else to put up there.


Here is their about page

WaysPride LLC is a company has been focused on RV industry home builder market since early 2006. We have our own factory to provide stable and high quality products, which are widely used in many of main OEM factories in the States. The "Facon" brand LED lightings and heater pad products have been highly adopted by the North America RV industry and Mobile Home market.



So it sounds like a lot of other trailers out there may also have these installed in them.
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Old 06-10-2018, 02:30 PM   #24
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yeah, most any 12V device designed for automotive use will in fact handle like 11 to 16V or whatever. cars typically are 13.5-14.4V when running, and 12-13V when shut off, and a low battery can be as low as 11V

And a lot of the LED automotive bulbs available on eBay that are sold for automotive use will fail when exposed to more than 12 volts. Usually not right away they may last a few weeks or months but they do not hold up. Dead LED's and Flashing segments are common. Just because it is sold for a use does not mean it can handle it.
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Old 06-10-2018, 02:35 PM   #25
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Hope it doesnít happen again but I donít have much faith in cheap LEDís. You might be better off replacing the whole light with an incandescent style and then buying your own replacement LED bulbs from superbrightleds.com or the like. We have the old style lights and put in our own LEDís without issue. Just food for thought.

http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Ligh...30-76-243.html
Replacement gets expensive, $13 for light fixture and led bulb replacement, $10 per fixture (2 bulbs each) or about $25/per light for the overheads, etrailer also offer the led Escape used to install with the wedge flat bulb held with a screw for $13, that maybe a better choice and I do not recall issues with those led lights.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:09 AM   #26
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Definitely contact Escape. We had flickering problems and Escape sent us replacements for all 3 of our ceiling lights.

Definitely a quality problem with manufacturing. A close friend has electronics manufactured in China, and the manufacturer does no QA. Instead, they send extra units to replace any defective ones.

I haven't installed our new lights yet. Here's hoping that the replacements don't have that "disco" effect.

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Old 06-13-2018, 11:57 AM   #27
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When I picked up my 17B in September I was very pleased with the new LEDs, especially the two double units in the ceiling. But during the just-ended Southern Utah Tour, both of them developed the dreaded flicker, making them unusable. Fortunately all of the single units under the cabinets are working fine.
I've been reluctant to pry them off for fear of damaging them till I call ETI and I haven't had time to do that yet.
Clearly at least the double units are not ready for prime time and I agree that replaceable LED designs would be a lot better at this point.
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