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Old 08-13-2016, 07:54 PM   #1
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Plumbing access

In looking at the threads it appears that there are no diagrams of either electric wiring or plumbing lines. My question is this - some of the lines run along the drivers side of the trailer. The outside water hookup is behind the frig. Has anyone found a way to access these area's. My concern is I have already had 2 plumbing failures, valve broke and a line just split. If that happens in an area in back how do I get at it, especially if it is at the water hookup.
I have already pulled the bottom off the cabinet next to the frig, It is glued on. I replaced it with a piece of plywood and glued the thin veneer piece to that and put it back together with screws, so I have access. But access to the water connection area?? any thoughts?
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Old 08-13-2016, 08:36 PM   #2
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In our 17B - the outside water hookup is in the same under-bed area as the water pump and water heater. I would think on a 21 it would be under the rear driver side dinette seat?

Also on our 17 where water pipes or electrical wires are relatively inaccessible, there are no connections, just straight pipes or continuous wires. Are there actual connections on the 21 of either of water or electrical that are inaccessible? I would think that that would be against code?
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Old 08-13-2016, 08:53 PM   #3
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The hot water heater and pump are under the bed and accessible (accessible is relative) my concern is the connection to the outside water input is behind the frig. So far I have had the toilet valve go and a hi pressure hose split. They may be straight lines behind the cabinets and frig but if one of them splits I got to get at the ends, and one end it behind the frig.
Since we are on the subject do you have any idea what the clear plastic line on the pump goes to? It comes from, or goes to, that area I am talking about and there are no plumbing diagrams showing what goes where Thanks
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I'm surprised the water inlet is that far forward on the 21. On our 17 the clear tube is the pipe from the fresh water tank to the pump.
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Thanks at least I don't have to worry about that!
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Old 08-13-2016, 10:15 PM   #6
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I would think that that would be against code?
Check out this:
How does plumbing vent system work?

My posts start at #11 but it's good to read all in context. Trailers have no enforced mandatory codes because they have been thought of as rolling tents from the good old days. It is a controversial subject and you can read about it on-line.

Escape trailers have a stamp of approval from an industry group, you can read up on that too . I don't want to open that can of worms. ETI plays by the rules and can affix the stamp on their trailers.
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But access to the water connection area?? any thoughts?
If you look at the left hand side of the first picture below, you will see a blue and white corrugated hose. That goes from the water fill connection to the water tank. Just behind it running along the floor of the cabinets is a PEX water line going to the water heater. The second picture shows the rest of the water line routing to the water heater. The third picture shows all the plumbing covered up with panels.

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Old 08-14-2016, 08:22 AM   #8
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If you have had Pex that splits and a toilet valve that's gone bad, I just have to ask... do you always use a water pressure regulator when hooked up to a water bib? I mean a good one, not those cheap plastic things. Spending <$15 can help prevent a lot of headaches.


I'm camping next month at a park that warns trailer owners, the water pressure is over 90lbs coming out of the bib. Last year I hooked up (with a water pressure regulator) and the connected water hose split. The water hose was just a cheapie. This year a better hose and a better regulator!
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Yes, a water pressure regulator is the EMS equivalent for water, assuming taste is good.
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Old 08-14-2016, 10:03 AM   #10
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I always use a regulator. they are metal and I keep a spare. Plus I check the pressure with a water gauge. Sometimes things just break. When my toilet valve went Reece asked if I winterize, I don't. I live in Georgia and we use the camper year round. I had been out in cold weather, it got down below 30 at night a couple of times , the month before with no issues.
My Casita was never winterized for the same reason, we use it, with never a problem. When I bought the replacement valve the guy at Tri Way camper said they sell them like crazy, He said "they just break" told me to always carry a spare. So I carry a 1/2 male screw in plug. If it breaks again, I will just unscrew the input line, put the plug in and keep a gallon jug of water in the John till we get home. Whats the saying "Stuff happens"!
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