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Old 07-07-2016, 07:56 PM   #11
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Atwood power tongue jack

Speaking of power jacks I have the Atwood supplied by ETI on my new 19, it sure makes hooking and unhooking the WDH a snap.

My question is, is it normal for it to be really noisy?

I'd hate for it to quit in the middle of a trip.
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Old 07-07-2016, 08:06 PM   #12
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Sometime in the not too distant past someone pictured a power tongue jack that was tall enough for the motor to clear a tailgate when hooked up. Anyone remember the post?
This one? Electric A-frame jack on sale The jack: 3,500 lb 12V DC A-Frame Trailer Jack (SKU: 8655680)
It may or may not clear the tailgate (depending on your trailer's frame height and the tailgate height), but the motor placement beside the column instead of on top of it makes it shorter than the Atwood jacks.

It is still on sale at Princess Auto, and starting on Tuesday (2016 Jul 12-24) a similar jack is on sale for CA$139.99: 3,500 lb 12V DC A-Frame Trailer Jack
(SKU: 8490427)
The two jacks may be the same except that the first one has a remote and a cord set up to plug into the tow vehicle for power, while the second just has an input power lead.
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Old 07-07-2016, 08:08 PM   #13
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Speaking of power jacks I have the Atwood supplied by ETI on my new 19...

My question is, is it normal for it to be really noisy?
Apparently yes; Ian mentioned that the one he installed was quieter than the Atwood. I noticed that some jacks use a recirculating ball screw, while other use an acme-form screw (no balls, just greased). The recirculating balls should have less friction, but would be noisier if not very precisely built (and for a couple hundred bucks, it ain't gonna be a precision bit of kit).
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Old 07-07-2016, 08:21 PM   #14
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Thanks for the info I won't worry about it. Although I'm tempted to pick up the one at Princess Auto for $139 sounds like a deal.
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Old 07-07-2016, 08:25 PM   #15
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If one is willing to tow with a mid-size truck, the Nissan Frontier tailgate easily clears the motor on my Atwood Premier 4K jack -- I can open the tailgate all the way while hooked up. This was a pleasant surprise to me when I installed the jack a few weeks ago. My Fronty is a short-bed ... not sure if the long-bed would work the same way, but seems like it would.
All of the difference between the short-bed and long-bed is within the wheelbase - the part from the rear axle rearward is identical - so no, it doesn't matter to clearance.

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Not sure Jon. I know in our case the motor doesn't hit the tailgate on our F150 - but the post certainly does. Only allows the tailgate to lower about halfway.
Since the Atwood motor is on top of the post, and even other brands' motors are just as high as the post, I don't get how this works. In any case, the jack is under the (open) tailgate, so they hit unless the jack is short enough.

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Same here Doug. Our Nissan Frontier tailgate clears on the 19 with power tongue jack. The stinger does push it out some on the Pro WDH that ETI sold us which probably is what allows that clearance.
The jack can clear the tailgate by being behind the lowered tailgate (which is the case for these Frontier with WD), or by being lower than the lowered tailgate. Since all the A-frame jacks mount in the same place on the trailer, the only way to get clearance by jack choice is by getting a shorter jack, or using one that mounts elsewhere (on the side of the tongue further back).
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Old 07-07-2016, 09:29 PM   #16
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Since the Atwood motor is on top of the post, and even other brands' motors are just as high as the post, I don't get how this works. In any case, the jack is under the (open) tailgate, so they hit unless the jack is short enough.
The motor on my Atwood 4000 is a bit higher, so, when the tailgate swings down, it clears the head - but not the post.
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The jack can clear the tailgate by being behind the lowered tailgate (which is the case for these Frontier with WD), or by being lower than the lowered tailgate. Since all the A-frame jacks mount in the same place on the trailer, the only way to get clearance by jack choice is by getting a shorter jack, or using one that mounts elsewhere (on the side of the tongue further back).

or getting a longer stinger can resolve the issue. I got one that was 2" longer and was able to open the tailgate, also use if the Jack-E-up allow use with any length of stinger.
To me, available use of the bed compartment far outweighs any benefit from a power jack! Just be aware in any scenario not to decrease the hitch capacity.
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The motor on my Atwood 4000 is a bit higher, so, when the tailgate swings down, it clears the head - but not the post.
Ah, now I get it: the face of the tailgate isn't hitting the top of the jack - the edge is just catching the front of the post. Sooo close...

The other style of jack wouldn't help, and would actually make it worse unless you turned the motor away from the front. A much shorter jack could fit under the tailgate, but I haven't been able to find one that short. There are short-travel jacks, but the mounting flange is set too low on them, so they don't hang down very far but they stick up at least 13 inches from the top of the coupler.

Get one of those notched tailgates for fifth-wheel towing, and you're set!
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The jack can clear the tailgate by being behind the lowered tailgate...
or getting a longer stinger can resolve the issue.
Yes, because it moves the jack back to behind the lowered tailgate, by moving the whole trailer back.
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Get one of those notched tailgates for fifth-wheel towing, and you're set!
Yeah, I thought about it, but I'd lose the integrated step in the tailgate, the back up camera which helps me hook up, and the tonneau cover to keep everything dry. I can live with not being able to lower the gate when hooked up. If needed, I lower the tailgate gently and rest it on the post. The top of the tailgate is black ABS plastic, so neither the post or the tailgate is susceptible to damage.
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