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Old 11-24-2014, 05:27 PM   #21
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I don't recall the cost per gallon, it varies from station to station.
Around Cdn$0.70/L here currently, which would be very roughly US$2.40/USgallon... but
  • fuel prices vary widely between regions due to taxes
  • propane prices vary due to transportation cost (high compared to gasoline)
  • propane prices are highly volatile due to supply and demand issues
  • prices between stations may vary more than gasoline since the market is less competitive.
The fixed cost for a small propane cylinder fill (which is how it's done here) is normally higher than the bulk price because it is a small convenience transaction.
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Old 11-24-2014, 05:29 PM   #22
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The exchange tanks seem to be where people get deceived if they don't read the info. My understanding is that none or almost none of the exchange companies in the states actually put 20lbs in the tanks anymore. (Blue Rhino now only puts 15Lbs in, down even more from the 17 they used to.)

They usually state it somewhere, but I doubt most people read the "fine print"
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No, we are paying for what we get, regardless of the size of the container. A common propane tank is called a 20-pound tank because it holds 20 pounds of propane when filled to the proper level. We get 20 pounds, and we pay for 20 pounds. I think that's 4.6 US gallons, so santacruzer gets a receipt showing that his 20 pounds is 4.6 gallons, although the tank is bigger than that (about 5.8 US gallons), because that's what they correctly put in.
Sorta correct, but not quite...I get a receipt for X # of gallons that filled my bottle to the 80% mark, which means I have 20 pounds of propane in the bottle now.

And that's pretty much what you said!
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Old 11-24-2014, 05:43 PM   #24
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Residential propane around here goes from $2.12 - $3.78/gallon, depending on who owns the tanks, supplier, location on the routes, amount delivered, and who knows what else. Small bottle fills at gas stations are $2.99 and up per gallon. Right now prices seem to be floowing gas prices and dropping.
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The exchange tanks seem to be where people get deceived if they don't read the info. My understanding is that none or almost none of the exchange companies in the states actually put 20lbs in the tanks anymore. (Blue Rhino now only puts 15Lbs in, down even more from the 17 they used to.)

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Where I get my propane, if I fill my tank, and they put in 16.4 pounds, that is what I pay for. This is great, because if a tank is low, I can just top it off.

I thought with places that just do exchange, you do get a full 20 pound tank, or at least are supposed to. Could be different across the continent though.

I have only once, and that was 20+ years ago, somewhere in the NW US, had my tanks filled by volume. That really seemed crude to me.
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Jim, it could well be that Canada has tighter restrictions on that, but here in the states, I don't know of any major exchange companies that put in 20 lbs. Here is the excuse Blue Rhino uses on their website, (basically: everybody else was ripping customers off even more so we get to also!)

"Inflationary pressures, including the volatile costs of steel, diesel fuel, and propane, have had a significant impact on the cylinder exchange industry. In 2008, to help control these rising costs, Blue Rhino followed the example of other consumer products companies with a product content change. We reduced the amount of propane in our tanks from 17 pounds to 15 pounds"
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Where I get my propane, if I fill my tank, and they put in 16.4 pounds, that is what I pay for. This is great, because if a tank is low, I can just top it off.

I thought with places that just do exchange, you do get a full 20 pound tank, or at least are supposed to. Could be different across the continent though.

I have only once, and that was 20+ years ago, somewhere in the NW US, had my tanks filled by volume. That really seemed crude to me.
Here in BC if Your tank is empty You go straight to the cashier to pay for 20 pounds.
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Here in BC if Your tank is empty You go straight to the cashier to pay for 20 pounds.
If you are talking about the Husky/Mowhawk on 3rd in North Van ( where I fill ), the operator puts the tank on the scale and can tell you that it is empty. You can go pay, since you know how much is required to fill it, or you can stand there and watch him fill the tank and pay after he's done.
I have paid for 19 lbs at that station.
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I use a luggage scale to weigh my propane tanks.
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