Propane Quick Connect troubles?

[brightday]

Originally Posted by MyronL

Here is my quick connection. Need to remove the Weber regulator since this set up uses the on the tongue tank regulator.

Myron, maybe I can pay you to make one of these, and I'll pick it up on my way to Canada? Just kidding! I'm taking the fastest route there so won't pass through NM. That said, does anyone sell an "at the tank" regulator? So much to think about and so many decisions to make …. I worry that I've bitten off more than I can chew! 😟

[Rrgramps]

Originally Posted by brightday

Myron, maybe I can pay you to make one of these, and I'll pick it up on my way to Canada? Just kidding! I'm taking the fastest route there so won't pass through NM. That said, does anyone sell an "at the tank" regulator? So much to think about and so many decisions to make …. I worry that I've bitten off more than I can chew! ��

ETI, have them as an option on the build-sheet. They installed mine, by tapping off the regular, on tongue, trailer propane bottles.

If you are headed to ETI, check with them.

[cpaharley2008]

Ava,
There are several years of trial and error and improvements explained here on the forum. You can learn from our mistakes, but you will need to make some yourself to pass on. You are trying to have the perfect camper from the start. Use the Escape and then start making changes you want, not necessarily those others have. Worry less and enjoy more.....

[Jordan]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

Ava,
There are several years of trial and error and improvements explained here on the forum. You can learn from our mistakes, but you will need to make some yourself to pass on. You are trying to have the perfect camper from the start. Use the Escape and then start making changes you want, not necessarily those others have. Worry less and enjoy more.....

Good advice Jim. I am taking possession in January and need to re-read this advice at least twice per week! The only exception might be doing your homework to select the option package.

[brightday]

Originally Posted by Rrgramps

ETI, have them as an option on the build-sheet. They installed mine, by tapping off the regular, on tongue, trailer propane bottles.

If you are headed to ETI, check with them.

What am I thinking? It's right there on my build sheet! Sheesh!

[brightday]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

Ava,
There are several years of trial and error and improvements explained here on the forum. You can learn from our mistakes, but you will need to make some yourself to pass on. You are trying to have the perfect camper from the start. Use the Escape and then start making changes you want, not necessarily those others have. Worry less and enjoy more.....

You're right, of course, Jim, though I'm far less worried about trailer defects than what I clearly don't know, because those of you who have the knowledge and expertise know enough to recognize and tackle the defects.

I'm engaging in this experience rather late in life, so foolish though the idea might be, my goal is to nail down as much as I can now so as to make fewer mistakes later on, pay up front, so to speak, to avoid having to pay - or pay as much - later on. You're right. It can't be fully done, but I've already learned so much that I didn't know -basic things that will make the entire experience less daunting - and though I can't memorize my notes, (advice from all of you), I have everything noted in easy-to-find order. It gives me great comfort to know that I have these words of experience to refer to in the first few hours, days, and weeks of ownership! In fact, having been all over this forum and noted everything I believed to be essential, I think I have pretty much everything covered. . . enough to even relax a bit before I head out... … and I'm allowing myself plenty of travel time to get there.

So looking forward to that day!

Thanks to you and all others for sharing your expertise!

[cpaharley2008]

If you lived closer to me you could have your trailer delivered here and then both of us could go camping nearby. I could give you a quick orientation and help you set up the first couple of times. I did this back in 2012 when I had my first Escape delivered, there was a newbe owner from North Carolina who had their trailer on the truck with mine. So we had them both delivered here in Pennsylvania and went camping nearby. They had never camped before so I was able to operate awning and the appliances for them and they were so relieved.

[gbaglo]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

If you lived closer to me you could have your trailer delivered here

"Here", being Chilliwack ( according to your profile )?

[brightday]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

If you lived closer to me you could have your trailer delivered here and then both of us could go camping nearby. I could give you a quick orientation and help you set up the first couple of times. I did this back in 2012 when I had my first Escape delivered, there was a newbe owner from North Carolina who had their trailer on the truck with mine. So we had them both delivered here in Pennsylvania and went camping nearby. They had never camped before so I was able to operate awning and the appliances for them and they were so relieved.

Jim, that idea holds great appeal, as you clearly know your way around a trailer - or four. I'd actually thought of posting an ad to that effect on this forum, as it would be lovely to have someone walk me through those first couple of days, helping me learn to back up, unhitch, etc. - all of the things a newbie doesn't know. Don't know if you picked up on the fact, but, as an interesting coincidence, I'm "a Tar Heel born and a Tar Heel bred" (to quote the Carolina fight song) now based in Houston, because that's where my daughter lives. Good thing you understand how to speak Southern!

I've already made reservations to spend the first two nights after picking up my trailer at the Lynden-Bellingham KOA in order to be close to ETI should my trailer need to return for fine tuning. If a spot there remains for you and your rig and you're willing to take on the instructor role, I'd certainly be willing to pay for the spot, your meals, and a bit of spending money besides, amount to be determined. (I have no idea what the going rate would be.) I'm writing this all up front for God and the entire forum to read, but if you're interested in the possibility, just message me here, and we can try to hammer out the details.

[cpaharley2008]

Ava, sent you a p/m.

[vmomara]

I ordered the 12' qc hose from escape only to find out it would not work with my Blackstone 22. Propane gear offers a fitting for $24.99 and with a fitting here and there that I had solved the problem. Also a 30" folding table works as my work table. The Blackstone regulator works with a 1# or 20# but not necessary with this adapter. Besides I hate to see my wife lugging a 20# tank back and forth from the truck at her age.

[gbaglo]

Originally Posted by vmomara

I hate to see my wife lugging a 20# tank back and forth from the truck at her age.

That's why they make 10lb and 5lb tanks with the same fitting as the 20lb.

[Buddy]

I have a Camp Chef Yukon 2 burner stove. It has a hose that attaches to the stove with a regulator at the tank end that lowers the gas pressure. I’ve hooked it direct thru the quick connect, no regulator in between. The stove lights but does not burn as hot as the gas pressure is lower coming off of the quick connector. There are no other appliances running.
Do different regulators provide different pressures? Could this be the issue?

[gbaglo]

You have two regulators reducing pressure, one on the trailer and one on your appliance. You need to remove the one on the appliance.

[Iowa Dave]

Originally Posted by gbaglo

You have two regulators reducing pressure, one on the trailer and one on your appliance. You need to remove the one on the appliance.

Glenn is correct here. Numerous campers have preferred to purchase a third propane tank which is usually the 5 or 11 lb size. It is often carried in the front box. The portability comes in handy for folks who need propane at some distance from their camper. Regulators do not have to be removed or the appliance fitted with an adapter. The “downside” is that you have the investment of the trailer mounted propane quick connect that you’re not using. There are some appliances that are very difficult to remove the regulator. In this case, if they are compatible with a one pound throw away cylinder, a appliance to tank hose is readily available. I found the separate tank and Weber hose to be the answer for me for my Camp Chef Everest camp stove, Weber Q and Camp fire in a Can. I went to the 11lb tank and have been very happy with it. I keep the tankin the front box.
YMMV.
Iowa Dave

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by Buddy

I have a Camp Chef Yukon 2 burner stove. It has a hose that attaches to the stove with a regulator at the tank end that lowers the gas pressure. I’ve hooked it direct thru the quick connect, no regulator in between.

Originally Posted by gbaglo

You have two regulators reducing pressure, one on the trailer and one on your appliance. You need to remove the one on the appliance.

No, I think Buddy has already done that: he is using the quick-connect hose instead of the hose with regulator that goes to a tank, so there is only one regulator (the Escape's).

Originally Posted by Buddy

The stove lights but does not burn as hot as the gas pressure is lower coming off of the quick connector. There are no other appliances running.
Do different regulators provide different pressures? Could this be the issue?

Yes, it could be. Both typical standalone "low pressure" appliances and RV systems are nominally at the same pressure (11 inches of water column), but regulators vary, adjustments vary, and some pressure is lost in long runs of plumbing when the propane is flowing at a significant rate (that stove has 30,000 BTU/hr burners). A manometer can be used to check the output of Escape's regulator, at various locations if desired; the stove's own regulator can be checked for comparison.

[padlin]

I have a Weber Q grill, I occasionally swap between it's original regulator and the trailers regulator setup via the quick connect. I've noticed it does not burn as hot when run via the quick connect, not enough to be a problem, but a longer wait to heat up to the level I want.

It's a pretty long run from the trailers regulator to the grill, got to be close to 20'.

[vmomara]

The only spare I have is a 20#, but a great idea for a birthday present in the near future.

[Vermilye]

Originally Posted by vmomara

The only spare I have is a 20#, but a great idea for a birthday present in the near future.

The only hassles with the 5 pound tank are that they are more expensive than a 20 pounder, and at the filling station, feeling guilty when they go through all the same work as when filling a standard tank & they only get to sell one gallon of propane.

You do have to avoid fillers that don't sell by the gallon. Few have a price for a 5 pound tank.

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by Vermilye

You do have to avoid fillers that don't sell by the gallon. Few have a price for a 5 pound tank.

And around here, almost no one dispenses propane into portable cylinders by volume - they charge a fixed rate. Got a half-full 20-pounder? You're paying for a full 20-pound fill to top it off.

This isn't important if you use one 5-pound tank a year running a little stove occasionally. Fill it every weekend and the cost (and inconvenience of filling the little tank frequently) adds up.