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06-23-2019, 05:04 AM
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Location: Vonore, Tennessee
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Real life RV 30 amp portable surge protection.
I don't want to start another debate about portable vs. built in surge protection. I'm not interested in installing a built in unit. I would like to know real life experiences with portable surge protection models and recommendations.
I have been using the Progressive Industries SSP30X. The unit has worked fine until our last trip when we evidently experienced a surge and the surge protection is no longer functioning.
I have been looking at replacing the unit and find there are several more units that offer over/under voltage protection as well (Progressive Industries EMS-PT30X), for almost twice the price as the one I have.
My question is this: Is the over/under protection really necessary? Since both units have to be replaced after a surge event, is the unit with over/under voltage protection worth the extra money spent (over twice the price)?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015G2YYN0/ref=emc_b_5_t?th=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N0W4CZ8/ref=emc_b_5_t?th=1
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06-23-2019, 05:55 AM
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If you ever leave your trailer with the a/c on and it gets hot where every one else operates their a/c, the possibility of low cg voltage and possible a/c compressor damage can occur. I have seen it happen. In addition, I have encountered in the past low power pedestals where my portable unit could not plug in, since 2012 I have been a happy user of the built in units Progressive offers.
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06-23-2019, 07:36 AM
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If all your looking for is surge protection , you could replace the receptacles in your trailer with ones with surge protection built in (Eagle) Far cheaper , less chance of theft , and not subject to weather like the large outdoor units . They also only provide one time surge protection .
You would not need to change out every receptacle in your trailer , possibly just one or two
No sense adding surge protection for your toaster
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06-23-2019, 09:32 AM
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Or even easier, just get a plug in surge suppressor - no wiring required. If all you care about is surge protection. Of course any solution at the outlets does nothing for your onboard electrical items eg fridge, AC, fans, pumps, furnace, WH etc.
I wouldn’t do without over/under-voltage protection myself. My built-in Progressive unit has protected us from bad power in a variety of flavors many times.
If you travel around, which is kind of the point of a travel trailer, you never know what quality of power you’re going to get in different places. Or water, which is why we’ve invested in a great filtration system. But I digress.
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06-23-2019, 03:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
If you ever leave your trailer with the a/c on and it gets hot where every one else operates their a/c, the possibility of low cg voltage and possible a/c compressor damage can occur. I have seen it happen. In addition, I have encountered in the past low power pedestals where my portable unit could not plug in, since 2012 I have been a happy user of the built in units Progressive offers.
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Ok, I may rethink the built in. How difficult are they to install? Is it something I can do myself? Also (really dumb question?) - I'm assuming I won't have to change or do anything with the solar system (inverter)?
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06-23-2019, 04:45 PM
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About a 90 minute job, I did it on my first Escape and considering the cost I paid, the next three I had them do it as an option.
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06-23-2019, 05:30 PM
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Location: Janesville, WI, Wisconsin
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Since I did not order my Escape with a built in EMS I went with the same product but external and portable. It now mounts on the power pole. Having an external EMS means it can be stolen, an inexpensive cable and lock from Master padlock keeps the casual thieves away. Also means I have an extra step when setting up camp. It also means I can leave it home when not needed. Saved me time installing inside the unit. I can take it with me when I order my third Escape.
After some expensive refrigerator repairs it gives me some peace of mind.
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06-24-2019, 05:57 PM
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Location: Bastrop, Texas
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Fudge
Source and price?
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06-24-2019, 08:46 PM
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Progressive Industries EMS-PT30X Portable 30Amp Electrical Management System $235
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06-24-2019, 08:59 PM
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Thanks
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06-25-2019, 12:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gwvwadc
Also (really dumb question?) - I'm assuming I won't have to change or do anything with the solar system (inverter)?
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Not a dumb question; the inverter produces 120 V AC power and you are talking about a surge suppressor for 120 V AC power. Fortunately, you don't need to worry about a surge from the inverter, so you don't need to do anything with the inverter.
The solar power system is DC at battery voltage - it is unrelated to the surge suppressor.
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