Rear brake scraping - Escape Trailer Owners Community

Go Back   Escape Trailer Owners Community > Escape Tech > Problem Solving | Owners helping each other
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 07-12-2019, 09:55 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
travdes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Mission, British Columbia
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21. 2016 Kia Sorento EX+ V6
Posts: 103
Send a message via Skype™ to travdes
Rear brake scraping

At the 7k mark of 9k down forest roads to our campsite we started hearing squealing/scrapping from the rear right brake drum. When we arrived at the site I popped the wheel off and confirmed its scrapping as I spun the wheel but I wasnít able to figure out how to get the drum off. Any clues on the possible cause? Iím going to try to get a mobile mechanic here tomorrow to look at it but I was hoping it would be something easy I could resolve.
__________________

travdes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2019, 10:06 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: n/a, Texas
Trailer: Escape
Posts: 419
If you can spin the wheel I think it isn't an immediate concern. If the brake drum is too hot to touch after driving down the highway then it is a concern.
__________________

Viajante is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2019, 10:26 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: n/a, Texas
Trailer: Escape
Posts: 419
On the backside of the wheel hub there should be a rubber plug near the bottom. That is the access for the brake adjustment star wheel. You can insert a screw driver to click the adjustment wheel up or down to loosen the brakes.

If you really need to remove the drum you have to remove the cap at the end of the axle to expose the cutter pin. Remove the pin, unscrew the spindle nut, slide off the outer bearing, and pull off the drum.

But, I think you should try turning the brake adjustment wheel before resorting to removing the drum. Or, do nothing for now until you can feel that the drum is hot.
Viajante is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2019, 11:01 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Iowa Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 4,335
Depending on the age of the trailer and the backing plate design, there may well be two brake adjusting slots. So only one has a star wheel in there. You’ll find it easily enough. After you remove the hub cap, you might have a castle nut with a cotter key or you might have to pry off the spring clip. Then when you pull out on the drum , the thrust washer and outer bearing may fall out have some newspaper or cardboard on the ground to catch them. Once the drum is off you’ll be able to look the shoes and magnet over.
Iowa Dave
__________________
Strike while the iron is hot. Live every day as if it were your last and one day you will be right.
Dave
Iowa Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2019, 11:13 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
gbaglo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B - "Toad". '08 Toyota RAV4 V6
Posts: 13,781
Suggest somebody advise how to put it all back together.
__________________
2009 Escape 17B "Toad"
2008 Toyota RAV4 V6 Sport
North Vancouver, British Columbia

What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
gbaglo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2019, 11:20 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County CA, California
Trailer: 2014 21
Posts: 3,401
If you think that sounds complicated read the instructions to replace a Seiki screen cartridge replacement.
__________________
"We gotta get as far away as we can!"
- Russell Casse, Independence Day
Rossue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2019, 12:12 AM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Vancouver, Washington
Trailer: Sold the Bigfoot 17. Looking for something else.
Posts: 44
It could be something as simple as a small rock that found it's way into the drum. Other possibilities could be a broken spring or a rusty drum rubbing against a backing plate.
Jack L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2019, 07:36 AM   #8
Site Team
 
cpaharley2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chilliwack, British Columbia
Trailer: Escape#4, 2019 Escape21 DejaView pulled by 2014 Ram Hemi/8sp
Posts: 19,674
What I want to know is why anyone would drive 9,000 miles down a forest road?
__________________
Jim
It is not the years in your life but the life in your years Lincoln
cpaharley2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2019, 07:58 AM   #9
Site Team
 
padlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: 5.0 TA #6, 2012 F150 EB
Posts: 5,865
Extreme boondocking.
__________________
Happy Motoring
Bob
padlin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2019, 08:35 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Iowa Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 4,335
Reassembly

Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo View Post
Suggest somebody advise how to put it all back together.
In the sage words of my father, ďonly take apart one side at a time.Ē
Iowa Dave
Iowa Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2019, 03:54 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21
Posts: 157
I think he means kilometers.
__________________
Allan Bornestig
North Vancouver
Trailer Escape 21
2017
Allan Bornestig is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2019, 03:57 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
travdes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Mission, British Columbia
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21. 2016 Kia Sorento EX+ V6
Posts: 103
Send a message via Skype™ to travdes
Your correct Allen I meant km. Thanks for your help everyone, the brakes were shot everything fell out when the drum was removed. Sheared off the wiring as well. Going to have it and the rest of the brakes checked out tomorrow.
travdes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2019, 05:03 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Hertel, Wisconsin
Trailer: TBD
Posts: 2,148
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008 View Post
What I want to know is why anyone would drive 9,000 miles down a forest road?
Maybe they were boondocking in Canada
__________________
ď The Danbury Malcontented Curmudgeon
steve dunham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2019, 06:18 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 4,896
Quote:
Originally Posted by travdes View Post
Your correct Allen I meant km. Thanks for your help everyone, the brakes were shot everything fell out when the drum was removed. Sheared off the wiring as well. Going to have it and the rest of the brakes checked out tomorrow.
Hope that it's an isolated situation given that your trailer is very new.

Could you post a photo of the situation. If I understand you correctly things like the brake shoes were also loose and detached?

Ron
Ron in BC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2019, 07:38 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Iowa Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 4,335
I’m having a hard time visualizing that too. If the wires sheared off at the edge of the backing plate, it should be no problem when installing new ones as the new kit comes
With a fairly long Pigtail that attaches “down the line”. I haven’t seen brakes fall apart like that for a long time. Not saying it
cant happen though. Good thing you heard it.
Iowa Dave
__________________
Strike while the iron is hot. Live every day as if it were your last and one day you will be right.
Dave
Iowa Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2019, 12:10 AM   #16
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Steveston B.C., British Columbia
Trailer: 2012- 17'B.... 2016 Tacoma SR5 TRD
Posts: 8
To remove the brake drum you need to remove the wheel bearings . it's all one piece.
Gingerdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2019, 12:55 AM   #17
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Vancouver, Washington
Trailer: Sold the Bigfoot 17. Looking for something else.
Posts: 44
What could have happened is that one of the clips that hold a shoe or magnet came off and churned around inside the drum as the trailer was moving and tore everything apart. Replacing an entire brake assembly with new backing plate is fairly easy. 4 nuts hold the entire assembly to the axle and there are 2 wires to splice. Have you inspected the drum for damage? if the drum is damaged, you'll need a new drum and hub assembly too.
Jack L is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2019, 12:11 AM   #18
Senior Member
 
travdes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Mission, British Columbia
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21. 2016 Kia Sorento EX+ V6
Posts: 103
Send a message via Skype™ to travdes
The trailer is currently at a shop as I wanted them to check the other brakes and repair the broken one. I’ll get a photo of the drum etc when I pick it up. The drum was damaged and they suspected it would need replacing. It also looked like part of the brake pad or whatever it’s called was partially melted.
travdes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2019, 08:40 AM   #19
Senior Member
 
tdf-texas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Baytown, Texas
Trailer: 2017 21' Escape - since 1/9/2017
Posts: 1,481
Quote:
Originally Posted by travdes View Post
The trailer is currently at a shop as I wanted them to check the other brakes and repair the broken one. Iíll get a photo of the drum etc when I pick it up. The drum was damaged and they suspected it would need replacing. It also looked like part of the brake pad or whatever itís called was partially melted.
Since this is a 2019, I'm assuming you have contacted Escape? This probably should be a warranty issue.
__________________
If It Isnít Perfect, It Isnít Finished
tdf-texas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 11:28 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
travdes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Mission, British Columbia
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21. 2016 Kia Sorento EX+ V6
Posts: 103
Send a message via Skype™ to travdes
Just following up, the shop stated the front brakes were improperly adjusted and appear of not been used. The rear brakes were essentially doing all of the stopping power, they also suggested I likely had the Brake Controller too high (6.8). Both rear brakes had virtually no brake pad left. I received the new back brakes and re-adjusted front brake and drove it about 60km today with no issues with the Brake Controller set to 3.

True test will be in 4 weeks when we take it back down logging roads again :-)

I personally chalk it up to learning experience, when the trailer was lurching me back at times I thought it was because it practically weighed the same or slightly more then our Sorento and ignored it. Didn't realize it was actually because it was braking and my car was being dragged back with it.
__________________

travdes is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off






» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Escape Trailer Industries or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.
×