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Old 05-25-2010, 12:42 PM   #71
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Re: refrigerator

This investigation has turned up some interesting pieces of information:

1. Most (all?) provincial regulations seem to permit propane refrigerators to be run while traveling, except while fueling or on ferries, where propane must be shut off at the tank
2. Transportation of Dangerous Goods (federal) does not seem to apply to use of refrigerators while traveling -- they are exempt from this regulation
3. Guidelines from some authorities are inaccurate or misleading -- for example the Propane Association of Canada says that in most provinces propane refrigerators cannot be run while traveling, and BC Travel says that TDG does apply to propane refrigerators, so it is no wonder there is some confusion.

If we want to add more clarity, perhaps we can ask the Propane Association of Canada and BC Travel to amend their guidelines.

4. Regulations spell out whether it is permitted to use a propane refrigerator while traveling. Since there is still a hazard in running propane while traveling, some people may still choose to not run a propane refrigerator while traveling, and there is nothing wrong with that.





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Old 05-25-2010, 08:34 PM   #72
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Hi: All... "Adding clarity" could be like poking a hornets nest!!! You might get BIT!!! Alf
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:23 PM   #73
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Re: refrigerator

Brian, it seems that all places that say that it is not allowed are either sites that offer hints or produce guidelines, where it is really the opinion of the writer, not really what is written in law.

I have not noticed at a fuel station where it has said to turn off propane while refilling. Is this common, and I just am not paying attention. This can happen . It would be a real reach for a dense enough vapour cloud from the pump nozzle to reach a flame in an RV. It would likely dissipate real fast unless indoors. I would also think sparks from the the starter motor, or even static charges would be of more concern.
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:04 AM   #74
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Re: refrigerator

I heard back from New Brunswick late last week. They are a little late to reply, but there are a couple provinces who still have not.

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In response to the inquiry concerning the Transportation of Dangerous Goods Act, transporting propane on a recreation vehicle it is exempt from this Act as long as the propane is contained in a cylinder not greater than 46L in capacity and that the total quantity does not exceed 150 kg.


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Old 06-09-2010, 05:01 PM   #75
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'course, they didn't say if the propane was on or off (not trying to cause trouble or anything ... mine is on if I'm going any distance and it's hot outside ... off if it's a "not too far" trip and it's not too hot).
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Dan, I had asked them all the same question, was it permissible to operate the propane refrigerator while in transit.

On this past 5 day trip, I traveled up to 6 hours at a time, and never ran the fridge on propane. It was cool enough out that the trailer never got too hot at all. When I got home, things were still very cool, not real cold, but this was also because the fridge was much emptier than when taking off.
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Old 07-01-2010, 04:33 AM   #77
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This guy places cold packs in his freezer when powered, and in the refrig when not powered:

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Holy crap, that is quite the check list, maybe just a wee bit overboard, no? Most of it is kinda obvious. It is like someone I know who will make a todo list up, and include stuff he has already done because it looks more impressive.

The cold pack idea is a good one, but it is not really necessary to move them unless you have a separated freezer compartment, and all the Escape ones have the freezer section inside the refrigerator unit.

edit: In hind sight my post appears a bit harsh, I meant no ill intent towards the person who wrote the list.
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Hi: All...Our trip to Indiana was the first time I've tugged with the fridge running on propane!!! It was sooo hot and time spent in Mary Maxims wool mart shop, plus Wallow Mart for essentials, made the trip longer than expected!!! I must say I didn't notice a difference so I don't know if the fridge stayed lit or not. I do know the garlic sausage I brought made it smell . Alf
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Re: refrigerator

Would it be easier to run the fridge on the battery when driving, then unplug the connection to the car when stopped temporarily? I would imagine that if it wasn't opened, everything would be OK for an hour or two. And as there is supposed to be a visual check and testing prior to take-off, then the unplugged connection shouldn't be forgotten. Has anyone utilized that methodology?
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