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Old 08-13-2018, 04:50 PM   #21
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I'm sort of in the middle view on that issue. The double pane windows don't work miracles but they sure do cut down on sounds. Just cracking one open you hear all sorts of noise that you may not have been aware of.

Hmm, white noise machine. Do they one have that specifically targets yells and screams from campground yahoos?

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Old 08-13-2018, 05:03 PM   #22
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certainly do, it's the volume knob. Comes in handy in WM parking lots.
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Old 08-13-2018, 06:09 PM   #23
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Wish the furnace and the air conditioner were quieter though, as it does take some getting used to the noise from those machines.
Yes, we find the air conditioner extremely noisy, so much so that ear plugs would be something good to pack. So far, we have only had to use it at night one or two times and those times and the many times we used it during the day we are certainly glad we have it!
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:07 PM   #24
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Growing up without air conditioning I was always used to a fan blowing hot air over my body. Did not get a/c in my vehicles until 1988 and the first window air conditioners were so loud that you could not hear anyone breaking into your house nor anything else outside of the room you were sleeping in. Comfort takes precedence over quiet, I find the a/c in the Escape to be just right....
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:28 PM   #25
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the first window air conditioners were so loud that you could not hear anyone breaking into your house nor anything else outside of the room you were sleeping in.
This is still the case.
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Old 08-13-2018, 11:46 PM   #26
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Yes, we find the air conditioner extremely noisy, so much so that ear plugs would be something good to pack.
You said it. We keep a jar of Mack's handy and if there's a chance we will need the AC at night, we don't leave home without them.
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Old 08-14-2018, 02:53 AM   #27
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haven't seen that earplug brand around here... my favorites when I rose motorcycles were the Hearo's brand Ultimate Softness Series flesh colored ones. roll the foam plug with clean fingers to both warm it and make it skinny, then insert it almost fully in your ear and let it expand. these are comfortable for me all day long, I used to do 700+ mile days on my BMW R1100RS sport-touring bike.
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Old 08-14-2018, 03:49 AM   #28
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Reace told us that on his Escape 21 plumbing fixing tour of the US last year, the heat off the pavement near Phoenix was so intense that the freshwater tank on his trailer could not be used for washing or showering. Far too hot. Insulation would help somewhat.

We value the insulation for our cold weather camping and feel it makes a difference.

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I dunno about the undercarriage foam, but I sure appreciate the extra insulation and double pane windows on our 2014 Escape 21 as keeping the interior cooler in hot weather and warmer in cold, and more importantly quieter.

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Old 08-14-2018, 11:19 AM   #30
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Reace told us that on his Escape 21 plumbing fixing tour of the US last year, the heat off the pavement near Phoenix was so intense that the freshwater tank on his trailer could not be used for washing or showering. Far too hot. Insulation would help somewhat.

We value the insulation for our cold weather camping and feel it makes a difference.

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Im sure that cud happen if one tried to camp in AZ in the summer months, but only crazy people would camp here then. Our “winter” months in AZ are June-mid Sept and then we come out and go the rest of the year. Everyone heads N if they want to camp in those months.
Just about all of our campgrounds here are built with dirt or gravel rv pads for that very reason. You dont want to be camped on an asphalt or concrete pad in Phoenix, even in the shoulder seasons.
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