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08-07-2018, 07:38 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Jeromesville, Ohio
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21' pulled with 2014 Silverado Crewcab
Posts: 854
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Tailgate and Powered Tongue Jack
I would like to add a powered tongue jack to my 21'. Right now I can drop the tailgate of my Silverado if the crank on the manual jack is at the 12 o'clock. Are there any recommendations on a jack that might clear the tailgate? I have a Reese WDH, so my stinger is pretty long and allows my tailgate to clear.
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08-07-2018, 07:51 AM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Middleton, Wisconsin
Trailer: Escape 21 2018 "Gypsy Cat"
Posts: 86
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For what it’s worth, using the Lippert power tongue jack supplied by ETI and the Fastway E2 weight distribution hitch with our 2018 21’, towed by a 2015 Silverado 4-door, short-bed pickup, the tailgate clears by about 0.75 inch. I can send measurements of the hitch to compare with the Reese this evening if helpful.
Thanks!
Claude
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08-07-2018, 08:03 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Jeromesville, Ohio
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21' pulled with 2014 Silverado Crewcab
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MadCAT3
For what it’s worth, using the Lippert power tongue jack supplied by ETI and the Fastway E2 weight distribution hitch with our 2018 21’, towed by a 2015 Silverado 4-door, short-bed pickup, the tailgate clears by about 0.75 inch. I can send measurements of the hitch to compare with the Reese this evening if helpful.
Thanks!
Claude
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That would be awesome. Which model jack would be helpful as well. Thanks.
Looking on Etrailer it must be the 3500 lb Lippert.
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08-07-2018, 10:14 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Southern Alberta, Alberta
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Posts: 1,734
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Remember you can alway rotate the power head on the jack 90 degrees for extra clearance.
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Doug
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08-07-2018, 06:42 PM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Middleton, Wisconsin
Trailer: Escape 21 2018 "Gypsy Cat"
Posts: 86
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Here's a picture of the Fastway E2 hitch on a Chevy Silverado 2015, 4-door, short-bed pickup: It appears the center of the ball is approximately 10.25 inches from the back end of the 2 x 2 inch receiver. I did not get the chance to check the trailer and confirm the exact model of the Lippert power jack, but I concur it is likely the 3500 lb model.
THanks!
Claude
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08-07-2018, 08:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Jeromesville, Ohio
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21' pulled with 2014 Silverado Crewcab
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MadCAT3
Here's a picture of the Fastway E2 hitch on a Chevy Silverado 2015, 4-door, short-bed pickup: It appears the center of the ball is approximately 10.25 inches from the back end of the 2 x 2 inch receiver. I did not get the chance to check the trailer and confirm the exact model of the Lippert power jack, but I concur it is likely the 3500 lb model.
THanks!
Claude
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The Reese is about 11 inches based on the witness marks on the stinger. Bingo! In business! Thanks.
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08-07-2018, 08:15 PM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Idaho Falls, Idaho
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21; previously a 2012 Escape 19
Posts: 78
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I turned our power jack and used a CURT 45230 Dual-Length Ball Mount. We have maybe 1in clearance now if the truck and trailer are parked straight. Dodge 2500 & Escape 21.
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Idaho Falls
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08-07-2018, 09:59 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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Weird thing about this issue - I think I mentioned it before but the tailgate would not go all the way down on my 2015 F150. It hit the Power Jack post about halfway down. I thought I might have to get an extended stinger, but when I hooked up my new 2018 F150, the tailgate cleared the Power Jack post with no problem. I assume the 2018 has a shorter tailgate? The receiver mount and ball extension looks identical to the previous truck.
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08-07-2018, 10:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
Weird thing about this issue - I think I mentioned it before but the tailgate would not go all the way down on my 2015 F150. It hit the Power Jack post about halfway down. I thought I might have to get an extended stinger, but when I hooked up my new 2018 F150, the tailgate cleared the Power Jack post with no problem. I assume the 2018 has a shorter tailgate? The receiver mount and ball extension looks identical to the previous truck.
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I only checked a few key dimensions, but from the specs published by Ford Body Builder Advisory Services the 2015 and 2018 bodies (including cargo box, including the inside height which determines the tailgate height) appear to be identical. All I can guess is that the hitch/bumper structure has changed to place the receiver box further back on the 2018, even though it looks the same. Some manufacturers show the axle to receiver distance in their equivalent documents, but not Ford so I can't tell from this source.
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08-07-2018, 10:41 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
I only checked a few key dimensions, but from the specs published by Ford Body Builder Advisory Services the 2015 and 2018 bodies (including cargo box, including the inside height which determines the tailgate height) appear to be identical. All I can guess is that the hitch/bumper structure has changed to place the receiver box further back on the 2018, even though it looks the same. Some manufacturers show the axle to receiver distance in their equivalent documents, but not Ford so I can't tell from this source.
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That might explain it. Perhaps the receiver on the 2018 protrudes out just a bit more. It would not have taken much more distance on my 2015 for the tailgate to clear completely - maybe an inch or so.
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08-08-2018, 07:23 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21C, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 5,370
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I have a 2018 F150 STX Off Road and the Fastway E2, and it does not clear the head of the power jack. Only misses by about 1/2", and it doesn't look like turning the head will help. I'll be looking for a solution, maybe a taller post that puts the head higher...
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08-08-2018, 09:40 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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You can always use the removable jack set up and a removable power cord set up.
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08-08-2018, 09:41 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PGDriver
Remember you can alway rotate the power head on the jack 90 degrees for extra clearance. Attachment 33312
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What we did too Pat
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10-06-2019, 07:09 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Fredericksburg, Texas
Trailer: sold Airstream\Casita -2019 21' Escape
Posts: 190
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For those with Tundra 07-12 (I believe the same tailgate), this is how much clearance you will gain by rotating the jack head. Picked up trailer last week and ETI still uses the Lippert jack.
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10-06-2019, 07:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Piermont, New Hampshire
Trailer: 2019 17B; 2011 Tundra 5.7L Dbl cab
Posts: 193
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jumboscott
For those with Tundra 07-12 (I believe the same tailgate), this is how much clearance you will gain by rotating the jack head. Picked up trailer last week and ETI still uses the Lippert jack.
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Your post is really timely for me! About to drive to ETI to get my new 17B with power jack; tv 2011 Tundra.
Would I ask ETI to rotate the power jack head, or is that something I'll have to do when I get home?
Thanks!
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10-06-2019, 08:04 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Fredericksburg, Texas
Trailer: sold Airstream\Casita -2019 21' Escape
Posts: 190
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They will not do it. I did it at the first campground after pickup. Ask ETI for some heavy duty zip ties cause you have to cut all of the OEM ties to get enough wire to raise jack head. Tap can be found at Home Depot. Here is the video.
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10-06-2019, 08:17 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Trailer: 2013 - 19’ -- Our ‘Red Wagon ESCAPE’
Posts: 14
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Buy a longer stringer. I've an Anderson WDH and my 2011 F-150 wouldn't drop down as well. Anderson hitches sells a 3" longer stringer, brought one and all is great now. Even with the E2 which use's a typical stock style stringer - there are longer stock stringer which will work. Do some research...
Thanks.
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2013 - 19’ -- Our ‘Red Wagon ESCAPE’
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10-06-2019, 08:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IBOACRES
Buy a longer stringer. I've an Anderson WDH and my 2011 F-150 wouldn't drop down as well. Anderson hitches sells a 3" longer stringer, brought one and all is great now. Even with the E2 which use's a typical stock style stringer - there are longer stock stringer which will work. Do some research...
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Stinger...aka drawbar or ball mount. I was thinking that jumboscott really needs to give the measurement of his stinger from the pin hole to the center of ball for someone to really know if this change would work on their Tundra.
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10-06-2019, 08:49 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21C, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 5,370
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
Stinger...aka drawbar or ball mount. I was thinking that jumboscott really needs to give the measurement of his stinger from the pin hole to the center of ball for someone to really know if this change would work on their Tundra.
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I went that route on my 2017 21. It has an Atwood Premier 3000 power jack which is symmetrical enough that turning it would gain little if any space. For my 2018 F 150 the extended stinger is 13" from pin to ball.
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