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Old 05-13-2017, 09:18 PM   #1
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Trailer brakes on 19

Could someone inform me about my 2016 Escape 19 brakes. Are they self-adjusting ? I'm heading out on Tuesday and am going through the escape manual but haven't found the definitive answer. Do I have to get dirty and check the adjustment myself??
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Old 05-13-2017, 09:48 PM   #2
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They require adjustment. If you are handy at all a brake adjustment isn't hard. Jack up a wheel using your favorite method- don't place a jack under the axle. I like the Trailer Aid, although you can shim up a "normal" ramp to get the other wheel enough in the air to spin. Then crawl underneath with a large flatblade screw driver. There are two slots on the back of the hub. The one towards the rear has the star wheel. Click it up until it stops then back it off 7 clicks. May need a flashlight to see better.

When it is time for brakes will upgrade to Nev R Adjust; a mere $10 more than a standard backing plate which has the whole assembly. Hardly any more $ than just replacing the shoes and a lot easier.
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Old 05-13-2017, 10:14 PM   #3
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Thanks Rossue, I'll be on that in the morning. The manual for Dexter axle does say that most of their 12 1/4 " brakes have a self adjusting feature. I guess I won't know for sure until I get under there. Thanks again
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Old 05-13-2017, 10:21 PM   #4
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The brakes on the 3500 #10 Torflex are 10". When you spin the wheel after adjustment you should feel some drag from the magnets.
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Old 05-13-2017, 11:31 PM   #5
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Simply Google "adjusting electric trailer brakes" and you will come up with all sorts of how to videos.
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Old 05-14-2017, 01:33 AM   #6
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With any luck, the trailer came with a manual for the axle, but even if not it is available online from Dexter Axle:
Light Duty 600-8K Complete Service Manual (LIT-001-00), or just
Light Duty Electric Brakes (adjustment is on page 13).

You should have Torflex #10 axles with standard (not self-adjusting, no parking feature) 10" x 2" electric drum brakes. The parts are all shown in the catalog.

Whether is it you, someone you pay, or a handy friend or relative, someone is doing the adjustment manually.
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Old 05-14-2017, 08:21 AM   #7
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Here's my take, adjusting your own brakes builds character, uses muscles you haven't used for a while, gives you a chance to inspect the belly of your Escape, gives you a sense of accomplishment, and saves you money. Then when done, you have a reason to reward yourself. I like a brake adjusting tool over a screwdriver. About $6 at any good auto parts store. YMMV as Donna says.
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Here's my take, adjusting your own brakes builds character, uses muscles you haven't used for a while, gives you a chance to inspect the belly of your Escape, gives you a sense of accomplishment, and saves you money. Then when done, you have a reason to reward yourself. I like a brake adjusting tool over a screwdriver. About $6 at any good auto parts store. YMMV as Donna says.
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Old 05-14-2017, 11:10 AM   #9
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Here's my take, adjusting your own brakes builds character, uses muscles you haven't used for a while, gives you a chance to inspect the belly of your Escape, gives you a sense of accomplishment, and saves you money. Then when done, you have a reason to reward yourself. I like a brake adjusting tool over a screwdriver. About $6 at any good auto parts store. YMMV as Donna says.
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With such a rah-rah endorsement for doing your own brakes it makes me want to rush out and do mine. No, wait, I just did them last week.

I agree, a brake adjusting tool is better than a screwdriver.

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Old 05-14-2017, 11:20 AM   #10
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With such a rah-rah endorsement for doing your own brakes it makes me want to rush out and do mine. No, wait, I just did them last week.

I agree, a brake adjusting tool is better than a screwdriver.

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heck..don't even own a trailer yet but after reading Dave's post..it makes one want to run down the street screwdriver in hand and find a neighbors trailer to learn to do it on!
might even spring for the brake adjusting tool before getting the trailer..you can never have enough tools!
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When you grow up the son of a Third Armored Tanker, in a gas station in the Midwest, with limited funds and unlimited time, and you tortured brakes like we did, you realize how good we have it now and the importance of staying connected to the past in any way possible. I remember my dad putting me in the front seat of cars and lifting the hoist up so he could bleed the brakes on cars we were doing brake service on. I'd push down on the brake pedal on his direction, Good he'd bark out. Again Good one more time for Omar (Bradley) ok coming down. Once back on the ground he'd say " You realize that's as close to heaven as you'll ever get don't you? Then I'd drink the top off a Coke and he make himself a toddy with a couple shots of cheap whiskey. I wish Coke was still cola and a joint a bad place to be. (Merle)
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Hi: Iowa Dave... First/last time I ever helped bleed the brakes I found out I was pumping the "Clutch"!!! Never again. Alf
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Old 05-14-2017, 12:39 PM   #13
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With such a rah-rah endorsement for doing your own brakes it makes me want to rush out and do mine. No, wait, I just did them last week.

I agree, a brake adjusting tool is better than a screwdriver.

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Hi Ron exactly what I have for going back to doing my old Chevy's and Ford's . Nicer to use , wider and correct bend that you don't have with a screwdriver . Pat
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Character building references and homilies aside (have plenty of great ones with my ole man too) there are a lot of newbies out there who didn't have the same experiences yet they need to know it isn't a matter of if but when you're going to need to do this. Taking it in to a shop is PITA (and maybe worse by having a rush job by someone who thinks they're doing you a big favor). When new the trailer brakes should be adjusted after 500 miles or so. Thereafter at least as often as servicing bearings. Otherwise you might start locking up tires (especially the fronts)as there gets to be too much play and the magnets grabbing hold will throw the shoe farther out resulting in sudden grabbing.

It's no big deal to do and although I too own a brake adjusting tool my long flatblade screwdriver with nice wooden handle gives me a better feel of how many clicks the star wheel is turning which is only important when backing it 7 clicks off after being closed. Of course you can do it by feel too, however to me that is more guesswork. As others so eloquently say YMMV.
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Hi Ron exactly what I have for going back to doing my old Chevy's and Ford's . Nicer to use , wider and correct bend that you don't have with a screwdriver . Pat
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I first time I replaced my own brakes, it was in Alameda,Ca on base in the garage. When done, I was so proud of my handiwork that I jumped in the vehicle while it was still in the air and immediately pushed the brake pedal down, it was then I realized I had not put the drums back. I had to take my 66 Mustang to the local brake shop and get 4 new wheel cylinders the next day....lesson learned.
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When you grow up the son of a Third Armored Tanker, in a gas station in the Midwest, with limited funds and unlimited time, and you tortured brakes like we did, you realize how good we have it now and the importance of staying connected to the past in any way possible. I remember my dad putting me in the front seat of cars and lifting the hoist up so he could bleed the brakes on cars we were doing brake service on. I'd push down on the brake pedal on his direction, Good he'd bark out. Again Good one more time for Omar (Bradley) ok coming down. Once back on the ground he'd say " You realize that's as close to heaven as you'll ever get don't you? Then I'd drink the top off a Coke and he make himself a toddy with a couple shots of cheap whiskey. I wish Coke was still cola and a joint a bad place to be. (Merle)
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Makes me want to come out to Iowa and hear some stories over a few beers. Myself and many of the mechanical engineers I know grew up working on cars. Brakes, clutches, transmissions, occasional engine, lift kits, tune ups for friends. My father is pretty handy but had a friend Wacky Jack that worked for General Motors. He could do anything and had a garage to envy full of Snap-on. Also a few neighbors on the block restoring cars. One built a street truck and a Chevelle on custom frames in a one car garage that were featured in major magazines. Working on an old Vette now. It seemed like a bit of a pain at the time to do all your own work to keep an old Jeep on the road as a young guy but boy did I learn a lot. Makes me think I need to get an old truck in a few years to restore with my young son just to give his some perspective.
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Yeppers, my dad and myself, well more him, restored a 1933 Ford in our one car garage. Eventually I got to drive it....fond memories.
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Yeppers, my dad and myself, well more him, restored a 1933 Ford in our one car garage. Eventually I got to drive it....fond memories.
For the car enthusiasts out there here are the builds that I've been fortunate to witness. Incredible.

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I didn't know trailer brakes need adjusting never done that on my trailer or on my horse trailer they both seem to work well?
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