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Old 04-13-2017, 02:06 PM   #1
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Here is a cross section of a piece I cut it off my trailer wall for a set of taps, for your viewing pleasure.

The shell is 3/16"+, the added foam is 1/2"+, and the vinyl backed foam is 3/8".
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Thanks Jim. The new insulation is clearly visible - quite a bit thicker than the refectix was.
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Hi: Jim Bennett... This is very useful info...specially when getting ready to "Bang your head against the wall". Alf
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Old 04-13-2017, 03:44 PM   #4
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Thanks Jim. The new insulation is clearly visible - quite a bit thicker than the refectix was.
Even before the Reflectix, and used in my trailer, was just another layer of the 3/8" foam without the vinyl layer.
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Hi: Jim Bennett... This is very useful info...specially when getting ready to "Bang your head against the wall". Alf
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Lots of cushioning for that Alf.

The 1/2" white foam is a lot denser than the vinyl backed foam. Kinda like having that soft layer on top of a mattress and a real firm one below.
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,,, Lots of cushioning for that Alf. ...
That's assuming Alf goes inside the camper before banging his head. I have a nephew that, when he was at the crawling stage, he quickly learned that when mad and wanting to bang his head on the floor, it was much better to first crawl into the living room where the carpet was softer than the linoleum floor in the kitchen. Smart kid!
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Interesting. Thanks for posting.
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Here is a cross section of a piece I cut it off my trailer wall for a set of taps...[/IMG]

Jim,

If you're installing beer taps, you're going to acquire a LOT friends very quickly! And when you hit the road, you'll look like the Pied Piper with all us folks following along behind.

What's your latest project? Don't keep us in suspense!

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I'm betting Jim cut the hole for an outside shower.
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I finally got going on things this week, and pretty much have all the cabinetry framing done. Tomorrow I will start at the drawer boxes, then on to the doors.

I installed the water taps (dang, I really like the beer tap idea ) , as I had to do the water lines.

Focusing on making it usable, then on to solar, electrical and the such.
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Here is a cross section of a piece I cut it off my trailer wall for a set of taps, for your viewing pleasure.

The shell is 3/16"+, the added foam is 1/2"+, and the vinyl backed foam is 3/8".
just 3/16" between you and that big grisly bear with an attitude!

also looking forward to your solar update...
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I finally got going on things this week, and pretty much have all the cabinetry framing done. Tomorrow I will start at the drawer boxes, then on to the doors.

I installed the water taps (dang, I really like the beer tap idea ) , as I had to do the water lines.

Focusing on making it usable, then on to solar, electrical and the such.
The rally is coming up soon -- If you're gonna show that baby off, you better get crackin'. No showing up with the sticky!
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The rally is coming up soon -- If you're gonna show that baby off, you better get crackin'. No showing up with the sticky!
The Rustler is going up for sale right away. No turning back now.
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just 3/16" between you and that big grisly bear with an attitude!

also looking forward to your solar update...
Not too worried about bears. That 'glass is tough, when drilling a couple holes through the bottom of my trailer, the bit went fast through the plywood, and really laboured once it hit the shell.
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Not too worried about bears. That 'glass is tough, when drilling a couple holes through the bottom of my trailer, the bit went fast through the plywood, and really laboured once it hit the shell.
I always wondered after seeing that Scamp used the shredded fiberglass spray guns to lay up the fiberglass in their mold, how they could be sure it was a consistent thickness? Reace uses the fiberglass mat method doesn't he, Jim?
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Reace uses the fiberglass mat method doesn't he, Jim?
Pretty sure it gets sprayed.
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Pretty sure it gets sprayed.
Really - I thought for sure someone said they talked with Reace and that ETI used the lay up mat method..... but then I just got older last week and tend to forget even more than I used too......

I still can't figure out how the spray method can give a consistent thickness....
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Stupid question and just out of curiosity, if one opts out of the insulation, is it pretty much dead space between the inner and outer layer?
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Pretty sure it gets sprayed.
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Really - I thought for sure someone said they talked with Reace and that ETI used the lay up mat method..... but then I just got older last week and tend to forget even more than I used too......

I still can't figure out how the spray method can give a consistent thickness....
The two terms aren't mutually exclusive. Working in a f.g. shop paid for university. On a good day we'd knock off 3 ore car covers and 2 Kenworth truck cabs. The chopper gun can be used in two ways. It can put down a huge volume of chopped strand and resin. Add enough and you get a very strong product. But it's resin rich and not nearly as strong as using cloth or woven roving. That gives a stronger lighter product. So another way to use the chopper gun is to basically use it to spray the resin and wet out either mat, cloth or roving. Since it's also mixing 2 catalyzed resins it makes sense to use the gun. No one is going to hand mix and brush on that large amount of resin.

It's my guess that ETI uses some roving and maybe a little chopped strand. But I doubt that the trailer is composed of only a chopped strand layup.

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Stupid question and just out of curiosity, if one opts out of the insulation, is it pretty much dead space between the inner and outer layer?
The vinyl backed foam is then glued to the shell.
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Makes sense. Thanks
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