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Old 06-13-2015, 03:33 PM   #21
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It's an all electric Suburban Brian.
Ah, yes, the Scamp electric heater - not a typical RV unit at all, so configured quite differently. It's not in their online store, or in their features list, so they might not offer it any more. It looks like the Speed-O-Matic line was intended for mobile homes (small, but have electrical power).

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Donna,
Are you saying you do not have the propane option nor the removable anode rod on your Suburban water heater?
I was asking Donna about her Scamp's heater with a drain valve - which turns out to be electric, just like a tiny version of a common residential electric water heater. I assume Ten Forward has Escape's standard Suburban, complete with propane operation and anode rod (and perhaps electric element as well).
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Old 06-14-2015, 09:28 AM   #22
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We usually turn ours on. Electric if hooked up, LP if not. We are at the SKP park in Coarsegold this week, and have had several 100+ days. I have left it off.

If we want hot water, we use the cold, during the day there is enough very hot water in the hose and filter to wash your hands... If we want cool, we use the hot, the insulated tank keeps it nice and cool!
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Old 06-14-2015, 10:28 AM   #23
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If we want hot water, we use the cold, during the day there is enough very hot water in the hose and filter to wash your hands... If we want cool, we use the hot, the insulated tank keeps it nice and cool!

now that is ironic and funny...
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Old 06-14-2015, 04:37 PM   #24
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I never turn off my propane only hot water heater once camped. I can't believe it uses that much propane, certainly not compared to the frig or furnace. I would venture to guess that propane use for keeping the water hot is less than .10 cents a day, more if you use lots of hot water.

Our 20 lb propane tanks hold 4.72 gallons approx, at the current USD price of $2.39/gallon it should cost $11.28 to fill a tank, plus any local taxes. That is a pretty minor portion of our camping costs considering getting 15 miles per gallon is doing good and we all travel a great deal. How many tank fills do you need in a 12 month period?

Can someone refute my cost figures with hard facts, mine is a guess after all?

Now if the noise disturbs you that is a different matter.
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I do not think I have ever refilled any of my propane tanks, on any trailer.....yet...
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I never turn off my propane only hot water heater once camped. I can't believe it uses that much propane, certainly not compared to the frig or furnace. I would venture to guess that propane use for keeping the water hot is less than .10 cents a day, more if you use lots of hot water.

Our 20 lb propane tanks hold 4.72 gallons approx, at the current USD price of $2.39/gallon it should cost $11.28 to fill a tank, plus any local taxes. That is a pretty minor portion of our camping costs considering getting 15 miles per gallon is doing good and we all travel a great deal. How many tank fills do you need in a 12 month period?

Can someone refute my cost figures with hard facts, mine is a guess after all?

Now if the noise disturbs you that is a different matter.
Last time here in California it cost us $20.00 to fill tank .Pat
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Old 06-14-2015, 05:11 PM   #27
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Just paid $27C for one tank fill here in BC. Ouch. Had been used to about us$13 at $3/g earlier.

Winter camping, furnace, water heater, no fridge -- 7 days to empty 20lb.

Summer camping, same water heater use plus fridge for part of time, 2.5 weeks to empty 20 lb.

As a complete guess, I would say 4 weeks to burn up 20lb using minimal water heater -- morning shower plus dinner dishes ie 2 heatling cycles per day. So.... A gallon a week maybe? Which might yield up 50 cents a day ballpark for water heating.

Your figures will definitely be different than mine.
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I never turn off my propane only hot water heater once camped. I can't believe it uses that much propane, certainly not compared to the frig or furnace. I would venture to guess that propane use for keeping the water hot is less than .10 cents a day, more if you use lots of hot water.

Our 20 lb propane tanks hold 4.72 gallons approx, at the current USD price of $2.39/gallon it should cost $11.28 to fill a tank, plus any local taxes. That is a pretty minor portion of our camping costs considering getting 15 miles per gallon is doing good and we all travel a great deal. How many tank fills do you need in a 12 month period?

Can someone refute my cost figures with hard facts, mine is a guess after all?

Now if the noise disturbs you that is a different matter.
I'm with you Bruce. I've seen tons of discussions about why it makes sense to get the electric option for the hot water heater. My calculations worked out to about 400+ nights of camping or more to break even for the option. Plus with the propane only, there is nothing to change over and no chance of burning out the electric element. (Which would push the break even point even further out!)
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I'm with you Bruce. I've seen tons of discussions about why it makes sense to get the electric option for the hot water heater. My calculations worked out to about 400+ nights of camping or more to break even for the option. Plus with the propane only, there is nothing to change over and no chance of burning out the electric element. (Which would push the break even point even further out!)
I like being able to use the electricity I paid for in my site rental for as much as possible, since I paid for it whether I use it or not. That being said, we bought our trailer used and it came with the dual h20 heater so there really is no break even point.
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Old 06-15-2015, 08:33 AM   #30
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Try costco for propane, they are usually much cheaper.
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