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08-16-2019, 04:13 PM
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water hookups and leaks.
Anyone else irritated by pesky leaks in the city water delivery systems? I know some CG faucets seem to have built-in leaks, but doggonit it seems we could get water to the camper from that faucet w/o making a mud puddle every time! If they make quick connects for propane and compressor hoses (which don't leak) why not for water hoses? Anybody got a better system than the piles of Teflon tape we seem to use each time? Along that line..what type "female" conector does ETI use at the trailer? Or,,can you still call it a female connector?
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08-16-2019, 04:30 PM
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Hmmm, I don't use any tape on any of the hose fittings and can't recall any leaks. I use a brass 90 at the trailer connected to the regulator, then the hose. Sometimes 2 hoses.
I do replace the o rings/washers every year.
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08-16-2019, 04:44 PM
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It's a pain. The older the campground, often the worse the threads on the hose bib. Cross threaded, nicks in the threads. All you can do is a couple good wraps with teflon tape, cinch down the regulator and hope for the best. I turn off the water when I'm away from the trailer, no point in making the mud puddle worse.
On the trailer side, I pretty much have something permanently mounted and it certain speeds up the connection and so far everything that I can control is leak free.
This is on the freshwater connect on the trailer. One-half of a quick connect.
The other half is on the hose elbow
which is permanently attached to a good hose
and a good regulator is on the hose at the bib end.
When disconnected, I put this on the quick connect.. trailer side. It's a chair leg cap and hasn't flown off during travel. Fits pretty tight.
filled with epoxy this goes into the hose elbow quick connect
and this also filled with epoxy and is screwed into the regulator.
The hose can then be coiled up and put away and won't leak.
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08-16-2019, 05:38 PM
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If it is not properly installed it will leak, if properly installed no leaks, no tape needed, ever.
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08-16-2019, 05:44 PM
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leaks
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Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
If it is not properly installed it will leak, if properly installed no leaks, no tape needed, ever.
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Yep I've tried different type washers, teflon tape and so on.. LOts of times the CG faucets have been near ruined by folks cross-threading them..need lots f tape
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08-16-2019, 05:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
If it is not properly installed it will leak, if properly installed no leaks, no tape needed, ever.
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I'd like to think that's true. But often it as nothing to do with installing 'correctly,' but everything to do with the abuse to the hose bib threads. None of us can control the condition of the faucet. I was at a park last summer, it looked like someone had taken a hack saw to the threads. The best I could do was to hope to slow down the leaks. I DID report the issue to the management on my way out.
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08-16-2019, 06:07 PM
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If the threads are ruined you need one of these for leak proof hookups- water bandit
https://www.amazon.com/Camco-Connect...gateway&sr=8-1
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08-16-2019, 06:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
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That can't be used under pressure so no use. Only good to fill up your trailer fresh water tank.
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08-16-2019, 06:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barry
That can't be used under pressure so no use. Only good to fill up your trailer fresh water tank.
Barry
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Better than nothing........
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08-16-2019, 07:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollybee
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Yep I've tried different type washers, teflon tape and so on.. LOts of times the CG faucets have been near ruined by folks cross-threading them..need lots f tape
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Just another reason we boondock wherever possible and when having to use campgrounds almost never have hookups. So no problem with c.g. hosebibs.
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08-16-2019, 08:01 PM
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Generally only a pipe thread can seal a pressure connection.
The water is leaking around the washer/gasket.
Maybe the threaded end isn't tight enough to provide a seal. Or the washer is too hard to be compressed. Or there is debris between the surfaces. Or the metal sealing surface isn't flat.
The treads on a hose are not there to stop a water leak, they are there to compress the washers. I'd focus on that and save your tape.
Bob
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08-16-2019, 08:22 PM
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After blowing out my plumbing on an early trip by neglecting to use the pressure restrictor (duh) I have since just filled my water tank and used the pump. So far, so good.
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08-17-2019, 06:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barry
That can't be used under pressure so no use. Only good to fill up your trailer fresh water tank
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Based on some Internet posts some have been successful with a couple hose clamps keeping it on and adding strength even though use with pressurized systems is not recommended. I would try it because I do a lot of things that would probably not be recommended. Of course I would shut the water off when leaving the site which is good practice anyhow.
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08-17-2019, 08:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
It's a pain. The older the campground, often the worse the threads on the hose bib. Cross threaded, nicks in the threads. All you can do is a couple good wraps with teflon tape, cinch down the regulator and hope for the best. I turn off the water when I'm away from the trailer, no point in making the mud puddle worse.
On the trailer side, I pretty much have something permanently mounted and it certain speeds up the connection and so far everything that I can control is leak free.
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WOW, DONNA!!!! Thanks for the detailed information! I copied the photos of all parts and placed them in order so as to get this right.
Bless you for taking the time to be so explcit! 🌻🌻🌻
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08-17-2019, 09:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brightday
WOW, DONNA!!!! Thanks for the detailed information! I copied the photos of all parts and placed them in order so as to get this right.
Bless you for taking the time to be so explcit! 🌻🌻🌻
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You're most welcome. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
I did this due to desperation. I thought I was going to need to cut the hose off the trailer! I COULD NOT get it to unscrew off the city water connection. Thank goodness for the kindness of a fellow camper with bigger/stronger hands than mine.
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08-17-2019, 11:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Thank goodness for the kindness of a fellow camper with bigger/stronger hands than mine.
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Water pump pliers, never leave home without them.
Ron
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08-17-2019, 11:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
You're most welcome. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
I did this due to desperation. I thought I was going to need to cut the hose off the trailer! I COULD NOT get it to unscrew off the city water connection. Thank goodness for the kindness of a fellow camper with bigger/stronger hands than mine.
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Channel locks. Also good for campground PVS sewer caps that won't loosen.
I got to tour the Tuborg Brewery near the docks in Copenhagen around 1981. Our guide had helped the Danish resistance in smuggling Danish Jews out of the country to neutral countries on Tuborg ships. The other American had made the D Day jump with the 82d. After the tour we got to sit in the banquet room and sample the product. I spent that afternoon listening to these two gentleman relate their experiences while drinking free beer fresh from the brewery. I was a happy camper
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08-18-2019, 06:31 AM
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Donna, are you saying your seal off your hose in storage? I always thought air was better than no air to prevent mold. I leave my ends open, inside the front box.
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08-18-2019, 07:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Donna, are you saying your seal off your hose in storage? I always thought air was better than no air to prevent mold. I leave my ends open, inside the front box.
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I do seal it. It's drained first, of course. But my hose is stored in the front hatch of the trailer. I don't have any place (other than the back of the truck) for a leaky hose. I haven't noticed any nasties and do run bleach water through the hose, in the spring, as part of maintenance.
I know a lot of people screw the two ends together.
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08-18-2019, 07:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
I know a lot of people screw the two ends together.
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I'm one of those people - keeps the dirt n stuff out of the hose.
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